Reality Has Endorsed Bernie Sanders

[Uncle Joe]

(snip)

The crisis is laying bare the brutality of an economy organized around production for the sake of profit and not human need. The logic that the free market knows best can be seen in the prioritization of affordability in health care as millions careen toward economic ruin. It is seen in the ways that states have been thrown into frantic competition with one another for personal protective equipment and ventilators—the equipment goes to whichever state can pay the most. It can be seen in the still criminally slow and inefficient and inconsistent testing for the virus. It is found in the multi-billion-dollar bailout of the airline industry, alongside nickel-and-dime means tests to determine which people might be eligible to receive ridiculously inadequate public assistance.

The argument for resuming a viable social-welfare state is about not only attending to the immediate needs of tens of millions of people but also reëstablishing social connectivity, collective responsibility, and a sense of common purpose, if not common wealth. In an unrelenting and unemotional way, covid-19 is demonstrating the vastness of our human connection and mutuality. Our collectivity must be borne out in public policies that repair the friable welfare infrastructure that threatens to collapse beneath our social weight. A society that allows hundreds of thousands of home health-care workers to labor without health insurance, that keeps school buildings open so that black and brown children can eat and be sheltered, that allows millionaires to stow their wealth in empty apartments while homeless families navigate the streets, that threatens eviction and loan defaults while hundreds of millions are mandated to stay inside to suppress the virus, is bewildering in its incoherence and inhumanity.

Naomi Klein has written about how the political class has used social catastrophes to create policies that allow for private plunder. She calls it “disaster capitalism,” or the “shock doctrine.” But she has also written that, in each of these moments, there are also opportunities for ordinary people to transform their conditions in ways that benefit humanity. The class-driven hierarchy of our society will encourage the spread of this virus unless dramatic and previously unthinkable solutions are immediately put on the table. As Sanders has counselled, we must think in unprecedented ways. This includes universal health care, an indefinite moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, the cancellation of student-loan debt, a universal basic income, and the reversal of all cuts to food stamps. These are the basic measures that can staunch the immediate crisis of deprivation—of millions of layoffs and millions more to come.

The Sanders campaign was an entry point to this discussion. It has shown public appetite, even desire, for vast spending and new programs. These desires did not translate into votes because they seemed like a risky endeavor when the consequence was four more years of Trump. But the mushrooming crisis of covid-19 is changing the calculus. As federal officials announce new trillion-dollar aid packages daily, we can never go back to banal discussions of “How will we pay for it?” How can we not? Now is a moment to remake our society anew.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/reality-has-endorsed-bernie-sanders

[The Magistrate]

1. This Has Been Another Episode Of Lame Comments From No One In Particular, Sir

The sooner people, especially 'Bernie's' well-meaning supporters, get it through their heads what 'Bernie' actually is doing, the better it will be for our people and our country.

The fact is Sanders campaigns not to gain the Democratic Party's nomination for President, but to weaken if not wreck the 'Democratic Establishment'. For 'Bernie', ousting Trump and ending the Republican majority in the Senate is barely an afterthought to this long-standing purpose. Once Sanders' supporters face this fact squarely, they may be able to decide honestly what their best course in this election is: voting against 'Bernie' in any future primary, and for Mr. Biden and Democrats all down the ticket to the lowest office on the ballot come November.

It is probably true that Sanders sees destroying the 'Democratic Establishment' as an essential precondition to defeating Trump et al, and so by his own lights he means it when he says he will do all he can to defeat Trump. But that belief is so self-serving and delusional it deserves not just scorn but contempt.

As with Trump, the only real cure is to deprive the man of the oxygen of worshipful attention. The effect would be that of a bucket of water on the wicked witch of Oz....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[RandySF]

2. Math endorsed Biden.

[we can do it]

33. 😂And voters.😂

[George II]

46. And pragmatic Americans.

[LVZ]

42. Most Bernie supporters ADD value to America, "Bernie Bro" trolls prefer to SUBTRACT and destroy

[NurseJackie]

60. LOL

[ehrnst]

75. +10000

[marble falls]

3. Oh please. Bernies campaigning with the nation burning down.

[MFM008]

16. Nobody

But berners are paying attention.
The nations psyche is to busy dealing with
C-19.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Jacobin columnist says what?

Reality in some parallel universe somewhere, maybe, but not this one.

[gibraltar72]

5. How is this helpful??

[The Magistrate]

6. It Is Not, Sir, Nor Is It Meant To Be

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[RazBerryBeret]

34. why do you call all of us Sir?

I mean... some of us aren't.

[The Magistrate]

41. No, Ma'am

Sometimes I have to guess, and sometimes I guess wrong. Sometimes, I even forget. My addiction to 'that cheerful and roguish vice, politeness,' unfortunately is seated alongside a life-long tendency to absent-mindedness. That did not develop with age, it was present from the first.

[George II]

47. Politeness is a virtue, not a vice. Even if occasionally incorrect.

[Uncle Joe]

11. It's not helpful if one prefers a health care system based on profit over the public good.

[The Magistrate]

20. Again, Sir, Distorting And Dishonest Agitprop

My view of private insurance would curl your hair.

I also recognize that simply moving to abolish them would cause great disruption and dislocation.

People who actually work at providing health care, and the tools and drugs necessary, deserve their profit. Or would you just commandeer their labor?





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Uncle Joe]

30. Well Sir it's not that I doubt your sincerity, just your level of motivation.

"My view of private insurance would curl your hair."

Our nation goes through great disruption every single year when companies go bankrupt with workers losing their jobs and "health" insurance but few in the corporate media and elsewhere seemed to give a shit about that.

Even if Medicare for All were to pass it wouldn't happen overnight but with a four year transition.

The author of the OP adroitly encapsulated the big picture whether one can or wishes to see it all or not.

[The Magistrate]

31. Do, Please, Elucidate, Sir

I await with bated breath your comments on my motivations....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[we can do it]

36. Enough already. It's ovah.

[Uncle Joe]

38. To the contrary it's just beginning.

[we can do it]

40. The beginning of the end for BS.

I guess you’re right on that account.

[ehrnst]

73. Perhaps for a tour to promote a new book, but not a nomination.

[George II]

48. No one has EVER demonstrated that we have a health care "system" (a misnomer) that is based....

....on profit over public good. Have you ever worked in the healthcare "system"?

On what do you base that "system"? Research? Pharmaceuticals? Treatment? Insurance coverage?

A lot of buzzwords but a paucity of facts.

[ehrnst]

72. The false dilemma fallacy

A false dilemma (or sometimes called false dichotomy) is a type of informal fallacy in which a statement falsely claims an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional logically valid option.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

If one does not agree with you on single payer, they therefor "prefer a health care system based on profit over the public good."

[awesomerwb1]

77. Like any freebies Bernie tries to sell

have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming law - in this case speaking of healthcare system.

Pretty pathetic selfish desperation to try to cling to a dream (becoming president) that will never happen, at the expense of the non MAGA American people.

ME ME ME ME

[nolawarlock]

83. How's that working in Italy?

Heck, the right wing predicted death panels with ObamaCare, which was silly and never happened. Italy's version of M4U, however.

[redstateblues]

7. Another post that is just an outboard motor in a cesspool

stirring up shit

[Thekaspervote]

19. Ouch!

[we can do it]

37. 😂

[George II]

49. As my favorite comedian, George Carlin, would say - a one-armed man in a rowboat.

[Jedi Guy]

57. I'm stealing that expression, just so you know.

It's hilarious, and I'm anxiously awaiting an opportunity to use it.

[The Magistrate]

61. That, Sir, Is Worth Going Into The Rotation

Being a big city type, the metaphor would never have occured to me, but it is extremely apt....

[MFGsunny]

78. With a million thanks for THAT imagery! Much, much needed ROTFLMAO. n/t

[booley]

8. But how can we afford to do what every other country did a log time ago?

How can we afford this?

I mean besides taking what we spend now, cutting it in half and keeping the rest since retaining out current system will cost us even more.

[gibraltar72]

9. Perhaps we can address that when Trump quits killing people,

We need a unified voice right about NOW.

[Uncle Joe]

10. I do believe we are at a historical crossroads booley.

[TexasTowelie]

13. Do you mean the crossroads where Bernie doesn't receive the presidential nomination?

Reality isn't endorsing Bernie Sanders.

[Uncle Joe]

15. Our nation is at a crossroads as to whether we wish to maintain

a society based on profit over the public good.

I do believe whether Bernie is nominated or not history will be exceptionally kind to him.

[TexasTowelie]

26. I think that Bernie Sanders

Last edited Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

will be the response sometime between 2040 and 2050 to a Jeopardy clue as to who lost in two consecutive Democratic presidential primaries. He will also be remembered as the guest that refused to leave when the party was over.

I wouldn't count on history to be either generous or kind with respect to his legacy. Naming post offices doesn't normally to lead to statues being commissioned or erected. Perhaps the state officials will decide to name a state park after Bernie?

[revmclaren]

32. Maybe in Sweden...

ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

[questionseverything]

52. community health clinics are financed by an amendment to the aca that bernie wrote and pushed thru

the poorest of the poors last safety net

when you say the post office line it devalues those folks that depend on those clinics

makes me sad that there is that kind of meanness here

[TexasTowelie]

58. Yes, Bernie offered that amendment,

but Bernie also has voted incorrectly (or not voted at all) on a number of bills. Attempting to turn him into a great senator when his career was lackluster isn't mean, it's honest though.

[questionseverything]

85. i have problems with the credit card senators votes too

not to mention his Iraq war votes

[TexasTowelie]

89. So you decided to change the subject to Biden's record.

I guess that it is easier to deflect rather than defend Bernie.

[questionseverything]

90. i am suggestting don't bring up senate votes records if your candidate's record is lacking

Bernie besides the public health clinics is responsible for the one and only audit of the federal reserve and the bill that gives vets a choice of going to private hospitals if va appointments are backed up..those are 3 off the top of my head so a bit better than post office naming

I am happy to support biden in the general even tho I disagree with him on most issues because I don't disagree with him as much as I do with trump.....please don't make it harder by mocking the others that ran...it hurts the party

[TexasTowelie]

91. So you are telling me what I can and what I cannot post?

That seems somewhat arrogant and I don't believe that you are one of the administrators for this site.

The bill for the veterans was in response to all of the veterans that were dying in hospitals across the country. That travesty happened while Bernie was chair of the Veterans Affairs committee--so in other words, he was fixing a mess because under his watchful eyes things got screwed up. The bill was passed almost unanimously because no representative or senator would want to be seen as voting against veterans benefits so almost any amendment introduced was going to get approved and there weren't any negotiation skills involved.

The Federal Reserve Transparency Act was actually an idea that was conceived by Ron Paul and the Tea Party. Bernie latched onto the idea and sponsored it in the Senate in the 111th, 112th, 113th, and 114th Congresses. By the way, I don't believe that the libertarian bill ever became a law so it serves as an example of Bernie's lack of competency as a legislator.

[questionseverything]

99. i am not telling you what to post but its dishonest of you to want to dis bernies senate record and

ignore joes

the mess from vets dying was because some senators vote to start wars that are non of our business and our troops get hurt

the federal reserve was audited once so the bill did pass, it was watered down to a one time thing at Obama's request

no problem with the community health clinics tho huh?

[TexasTowelie]

100. So you are calling me dishonest.

Keep digging yourself further into the hole...

There is no requirement on this site that I have to post something negative about Biden if I post that I don't like Bernie's congressional record. It's my opinion that Bernie is a mediocre senator and you won't be able to convince me otherwise.

[ehrnst]

106. Speaking of votes for military action in Iraq...

In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted.

Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.

How about the health of those affected by these votes?

[HarlanPepper]

70. He'll be a footnote

[ehrnst]

74. Like Nader. (nt)

[redstateblues]

12. Looks like your Biden bashing is not working

nice try on the other one

[Thekaspervote]

21. Italy.. think Italy..universal health care NOT working

As has been mentioned innumerable times here, imagine what a M4a would look like for Americans right now with dotard in charge!

[Hav]

27. "How can we afford it"

A start would be having a detailed plan on how much it costs and how to pay for it. Anything new from BS regarding these points?
You have to pay for it just like the other countries do it: By paying for your insurance and with your taxes. There is no mystery and if BS had any clue about this beyond his slogans, he could be honest about what percentage of your pay check will be necessary to pay for it. 10%? 20%?

And regarding taking the current costs as a starting point for what is already paid, there are companies who spend way more in providing good healthcare plans to be attractive for employees. That has absolutely no relevance on the costs an employee in another company with shitty plans would have to pay.

[George II]

50. Wrong, "every other country" did NOT do that a long time ago. How's it working in Italy and the UK?

[ehrnst]

65. Other countries started a long time ago.... from scratch... when health care cost much less

in two years ago, as Bernie promises.

Social Security didn't start out covering who it does now - kids whose parents died, etc. That took decades to expand

It's similar to those on the right who are convinced that shutting down Planned Parenthood is a simple solution to "end abortion," because it makes sense on paper, and gives them a demon to blame, when it's actually a very complex issue. It's become dogma, despite the expertise of those who actually understand the societal, personal and political forces that contribute unplanned pregnancy, and how the problem would be made worse by simply shutting down Planned Parentood. Even GOP polticians who know better continue to bang the drum against Planned Parenthood because it's now political and tribal heresy to speak the truth about the catastrophic damage of shutting down Planned Parenthood and "shifting all that money to adoption fees."

Those who see Planned Parenthood as a dragon to be slayed believe "reality endorses" their simple solution any time there is the rare abortion that leads to complicatins, because to someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. They shun experts who don't confirm their bias.

Bernie attacks anyone who dares to disagree with his math - no matter how expert and unbiased they are. Not a good trait for a POTUS.

https://www.urban.org/research/publication/incremental-comprehensive-health-reform-how-various-reform-options-compare-coverage-and-costs

[Freddie]

14. We as a nation have a LOT of thinking and re-considering to do

And I’m sure Pres. Biden will address health care legislation accordingly.

[LizBeth]

17. I think the exact opposite that our Realty backs Biden.

[Thekaspervote]

22. Me too!

[mathematic]

18. The author of this piece called Hillary a "genteel, insidious bigot" in Jul '16

She's so out of touch with reality it's not fucking funny.

[Thekaspervote]

24. In that case, I would hope the poster would take this down!!

[The Magistrate]

25. Useful To Know, Ma'am

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Uncle Joe]

44. Here is little more information about Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor.

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor is an African-American academic and writer. She is assistant professor of African-American Studies at Princeton University, and the author of From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation (2016).[1][2] For this book, she received the 2016 Cultural Freedom Award for an Especially Notable Book from Lannan Foundation.[3] She is the author of several books and articles that discuss her work in activism for black lives. Taylor is an activist for black lives and focuses her work in this area.

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor earned her PhD in African-American Studies from Northwestern University. Her dissertation is titled Race for Profit: Black Housing and the Urban Crisis in the 1970's. She previously worked at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana Chancellor's Postdoctoral Fellowship in the Department of African American Studies from 2013 to 2014.[1] Taylor is currently an Assistant Professor at Princeton University in the African American Studies Department. She teaches two classes in the 2018 semester. Her current courses are "Rats, Riots, and Revolution: Housing in the Metropolitan United States" as part of the Sociology and African American Studies programs and examines the effects of housing developments and practices that led to underdevelopment in cities and its effects on the Black community. Taylor also teaches "Public Policy in the U.S. Racial State" which looks at how "public policy is debated, adopted, and implemented" through the lens of racial discrimination.[1] Her work has appeared in The Guardian,[4] and Jacobin.[5]

(snip)

Taylor has written for multiple outlets that include The Guardian and Jacobin.[4] Topics covered by Taylor typically cover gender, race and racism, and her social activism work.[19][20]

(snip)

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor has had books reviewed in multiple publications with positive critical responses. Ken Olende, in the Socialist Review, called #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation "a valuable and very timely book."[32] Taylor edited a collection of writings for The Dartmouth, a school newspaper, in which Jordan McDonald said the "historical importance as a Black feminist organization is unquantifiable; with this in mind, the work conveys the group's accomplishments for new generations of activists."[33]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeanga-Yamahtta_Taylor

[sheshe2]

63. Just because she is an an African-American academic, does not make her words correct.

So is Cornel West and his calling President Obama, a Field Negro, does not make him correct either.

She writes for far left publications and this country is not far left, we are liberal.

Don't know how she voted 2016, yet West voted for Jill Stein and that makes him part of the problem.

[The Magistrate]

64. And Your Point, Sir, Is?

You were going to inform me what my motivations were a while back. I would really love to learn why I think and act as I do....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Gothmog]

76. Who is surprised by this?

The poorly written article cited in OP makes no sense and relies on a magical voter revolution. Magic does not work in the real world

[Cha]

23. BS LOST.. That's REALITY. & he Spent 4x MORE $$$$$ to

Do IT Than Joe Biden Did To WIN.

[rzemanfl]

28. NTSA.

[revmclaren]

29. The voters endorsed Biden

or don't you care about the will of the voters? I hope Sanders supporters are not setting up another "The DNC rigged the election" scenario. The DU archives are filled with such OPs.

It would be a shame if this was the case, wouldn't it Uncle Joe?


ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

[Squinch]

35. Remind me: why haven't I put you on ignore before now?

Nevermind. Don't remind me. I won't be able to see it.

[we can do it]

39. Give it a rest.

[William769]

43. Voters endorsed Biden.

[whistler162]

45. Nope reality endorsed Elizabeth Warren

and was yelled at by Bernie Sanders to get off of his lawn!

[George II]

51. What "reality" are you looking at?

[kcr]

53. When I read the headline, for a second I thought

This was about Reality Winner, who was thrown under the bus by The Intercept.

[Locrian]

54. as bad as this virus is...

We haven't seen the horrors of what eventually will be common.

Capitalism simply cannot handle what is coming. Climate change and all the baggage (more virus outbreaks, famine, war, etc) is going to slap the shit out of our "reality".

Unless we move away from the hideously inefficient zero sum game and find a way to collectively work toward something other than $$ we are simply not going to survive as a species. Most of the recent disgusting bailout (socialism for the wealthy and crumbs for everyone else) is not a good sign.

[Gothmog]

55. How is sanders' magical voter revoluton doing in the real world?

In the real world, no one in congress is going to be paying attention to sanders unless and until sanders is able to generate his magical voter revolution in the real world. I admit that I never considered sanders to be a serious candidate and never understood sanders appeal. sanders has no significant legislative accomplishments in his time in Congress in large part because sanders never bothered to attempt to get his fellow members of congress to support his programs. In the real world, it takes hard work and getting along with people to get major legislation passed. I was not surprised with sanders admitted that he does not try to get along with his fellow members of congress and that he was not good at pleasantries

Link to tweet

I agree with the NYT description of their decision not to endorse sanders in that sanders is too inflexible and that he is not able to compromise. Compromise is key to getting legislation adopted in the real world

Link to tweet

I admit that i do not understand sanders magical voter revolution that sanders claims will enable him to get his agenda adopted. I do not believe in magic and I have seen no evidence that sanders has a magical voter revolution.

Here is on one more question

Link to tweet

Merely announcing a proposal is meaningless in the real world One needs votes to get a major piece of legislation adopted and sanders has not shown that he can do this in the real world

How is sanders going to get anyone in Congress to pay attention to this proposal without his magical voter revolution?

I like the real world and in the real world magic does not work. I doubt that the real world is taking sanders all that seriously

[robbedvoter]

56. You mean the woman who went to The Intercept with her story?

I am shocked someone so sharp...🙄

[UncleNoel]

59. Reality sidelines Bernie. He doesn't need to sit on the bench inhopes of being put back in the game.

He needs to retire his campaign. I'm in favor of letting folks vote, but not the continued bashing of Biden when we need unity in the face of the tRump threat.

[Promisep]

62. Let's see who voters endorse

So far they've endorsed Biden.

[MineralMan]

66. Oh, for Pete's Sake!

[Codeine]

67. I also enjoy receiving many replies. nt

[The Magistrate]

71. Long Walks In a Misty Rain Are A Favorite Of Mine, Sir

Replies are nice, too, of course....

[comradebillyboy]

68. The Democratic voters have picked Biden.

Votes are what matters, not enthusiasm, not the number of donors, not any of that nonsense.

I really don't need to lectured about reality by the folks that ignore votes and delegates.

[HarlanPepper]

69. Looks like reality has made him an afterthought

But I get it. Dreams die hard.

[comradebillyboy]

79. A Separate Reality

A Separate Reality: Further Conversations With Don Juan is a book written by anthropologist/author Carlos Castaneda, published in 1971, concerning the events that took place during his apprenticeship with a Yaqui Indian Sorcerer, Don Juan Matus, between 1960 and 1965.

In the book Castaneda continues his description of his apprenticeship under the tutelage of Don Juan. As in his previous book, The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge, Castaneda describes the experiences he has with Don Juan while under the influence of the psychotropic plants that Don Juan offered him, peyote (Lophophora williamsii) and a smokable mixture of what Castaneda believed to be, among other plants, dried mushroom of the genus Psilocybe. The main focus of the book centered on Don Juan's attempts at getting Carlos to See, a practice best described as, in Castaneda's own words, "perceiving energy directly as it flows through the universe".

The book contains an introduction, an epilogue and two separate parts. Part One, "The Preliminaries of 'Seeing'", describes his re-initiation into the apprenticeship from which he withdrew in late 1965, and also describes his introduction to another brujo (sorcerer) named Don Genaro. Part Two, "The Task of 'Seeing'", elaborates on the mental processes involved with Seeing, and begins with Castaneda realizing that the plants are a necessary tool to arrive at Seeing.

[MrsCoffee]

80. Reality Winner?

That's the only Reality endorsing Bernie.

Because "reality" obviously has chosen Joe Biden and "reality" is that Bernie and his fans are in big time denial.

[woodsprite]

101. Exactly what I thought when I read the post title. nt

[Gothmog]

82. How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary

In the real world, sanders was rejected by the vast bulk of the party. sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.

Link to tweet

Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.

But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.

In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....

These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....

Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.

As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.

The vast bulk of the party does not like sanders which is why Joe Biden is going to the nominee

[The Magistrate]

84. Such A Treat To This Bob Back Up To the Top, Sir

That title really does make me smile....



"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[nolawarlock]

87. Well, if that's true, reality bites. n/t

[ucrdem]

88. I like how she mentions "disaster capitalism," then says coronavirus is Bernie's big chance.

Unintentional irony abounds in Bernieland.

[grantcart]

92. Have you lost your mind?

You are aware that the author isnt a small or large d Democrat but a Communist aligned with the Trotskyist faction of the International Socialist Workers Party, an unabashed Communist organization?

You do know who Trotsky is right?

[NurseJackie]

93. This turd of a post cracks me up every time it floats to the top...

... everyone knows that Bernie has lost. It's just that Bernie and his most loyal followers are having difficulty in accepting the truth. Sad.

Still... absurd posts like this continue to tickle my funny bone.

[grantcart]

95. On Nov 6 2018 the organization that the author was a leader of published

An article title " The Democrats do not deserve our vote".

Which decried supporting the Democratic Party as the lesser of two evils and equated it with the Republicans.

I thought that the OP was unaware that Stalin promoted his image within the Soviet Union as "Uncle Joe".

Perhaps that was generous, could it be that it was intended as a tribute?

Every time he posts he continues to undermine Sanders not elevate him.

[The Magistrate]

94. I Would Not Bet Money On It, Sir

During the WWII alliance with the Soviet Union, 'Uncle Joe' gained some currency as a reference to Stalin, and I feel quite certain he has no idea what a person of impish humor might make of that.

I recently ran upon a fellow here who seemed to have no idea who Mr. Norman Thomas was, or to know anything about the standing of the Socialist Party he led nationally during and before the Roosevelt era.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[grantcart]

96. Lol see my post above which posted at the same time

[The Magistrate]

97. It Is No Surprise You Knew Of The Usage, Sir

I am under the impression it was a domestic coinage in the U.S., playing off our 'Uncle Sam'. In English writing of the period I have seen 'Joe for King' used for teasing people who talked up the Communist Party there. Not sure it was safe to have made such a familiar reference in Moscow --- I recall an instance where someone did a long stretch in gulag over parking his coat on a handy bust of Lenin while he tended to some household repair....

In England by the way, the Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek was referred to by some music hall comedians at the time as 'General Cash My Check"....

[GeorgiaPeanut]

98. Another platitudinous fantasy

It's like some right wing unemployed beer guzzler in Alabama raising a rifle and yelling "The south will rise again, yesssiree Bob"

[Loki Liesmith]

102. Great. How many delegates is that?

[Me.]

103. He & His Should Hope

Lady Karma doesn't have his number the way I think she does. We'll see what is what by the end of April.

[la-trucker]

104. I suppose reality's endorsement is not helping much

Link to tweet

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[Sienna86]

105. It's time for a reset

We can’t keep doing things the same way.