Biden's actual remarks at the UNO Global Leadership Council (not Twitter smears)

[R B Garr]

He comes on stage at 12:30 into the video. It's going to be hard to match Biden on his foreign relations experience. This is what I see people are interested in now -- stability and experience. He is in a red state basically attacking a GOP president and he is doing a great job. The context of his Pence comments relate to Pence saying, "I'm here on behalf of President Trump" and being met with stone silence.

[AJT]

1. Thanks for posting this.

[oasis]

2. #Joe Knows

[Cha]

3. Thank you, RB!

[brer cat]

4. Thank you for posting the video.

K&R

[TexasTowelie]

5. K&R.

[betsuni]

6. Thank you.

A little aside comment in a long statement about how Trump has destroyed the U.S.'s reputation in the world used to smear a Democrat. Typical.

[TeamPooka]

7. at the Chuck Hagel Forum. A Republican house party. There are better places for Joe to be if he

wants to be the DEMOCRATIC PARTY candidate than Hagel the hawk's think tank.
yeah hagel served Obama but we always appoint them to run Defense but the GOP never appoint us to anything big.
Hagel's still a big ol' GOPer at heart.

[Hortensis]

10. A good president MUST represent and work with all Americans,

TeamPooka. Democracy MUST have a stable cooperative majority reaching agreements that work at least somewhat for both sides.

We've lost that to the power groups on the right who have divided and are conquering our nation, and we really, really don't want what they will replace our democracy with if we don't unite with all those we can to stop them.

[TeamPooka]

16. keep reaching out to Republicans and all you'll get is more Trump and Pance.

[bigtree]

11. +1

[R B Garr]

12. It's like attacking Republicans is stranger than attacking Democrats.

Unbelievable.

Biden was in a red state attacking a Republican president. That literally is the goal. Thanks to VP Biden for speaking out about the lack of presidential leadership right in the heart of Republican country. Thanks to Hagel for inviting a former Senate colleague — a Democrat — to attack a GOP president.

[TeamPooka]

15. Joe can't excuse Pence though. In many ways he's worse than Trump. He can say unreasonable things

in a reasonable way.
trump can't do that.
It makes Pence even more dangerous than trump in the long term.

[R B Garr]

17. Okay. That wasn't the context, though. His speech

was on foreign policy, lack of presidential leadership.

[TeamPooka]

18. yes, and in it he also called Pence a decent guy.

[R B Garr]

20. It's obvious there is a motive to separate those words

from the context in which he said them, as the context was that Pence is not an overt Trumpanzee and he still was shunned. Context.

[TeamPooka]

21. Please. The world leaders understood that Pence is Trump's stooge, hence their reaction to both the

the Trump name in Pence's speech and the later Iranian policy silent reaction.

They and we know that Pence has never rebuked his boss for anything in the last two years

Pence is at best an obsequious Quisling.
At worse an active participant in these policies, like child separation at the border and anti-LGBT, and racist actions.

Pence was being rightfully shunned by world leaders.

If Joe doesn't understand that Pence is Trump's stooge then that makes this comment even worse

The fact that is was an aside, ad lib, and not written comment also makes it worse IMO.

Because if Joe really thinks Pence just "isn't that bad" or that "Pence is not an overt Trumpanzee" then he's out of touch with reality and should stay retired.

[R B Garr]

22. You should listen to the speech.

How you are describing what people know versus what the speech was about don’t match.

Biden will be hard to beat on foreign policy.

[TeamPooka]

23. nice deflection.

[R B Garr]

24. If you listened to the speech, you would hear that he

was discussing the failure of presidential leadership and the resultant decline in United States influence and leadership. It went way beyond Trump and Pence, but you are invested in separating a passing comment about Pence and elevating it way above anything else he was presenting because it serves some partisan purpose.

Actually, that is more the deflection than listening to the speech and understanding that Biden was also a Vice President as Pence and he viewed it from that perspective — the shock of seeing a US VP being treated that way. Have you listened to the speech?

[Byronic]

8. Biden was friends with John McCain.

He loved John McCain.

It didn't stop him vigorously opposing McCain when he was Barack Obama's running mate.

Biden is a decent, honorable man. Sometimes he looks for the best in people who don't deserve it, but, politically, he is one of our finest Democratic warriors and has been for many years.

He beats Trump precisely because of his inherent good nature, not in spite of it.

[TeamPooka]

19. McCain didn't think he was chosen by God to become VP.

[Scurrilous]

9. ...

[bigtree]

13. Hagel was Biden's Senate frequent traveling partner

...both with senior roles at the time on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, struck up a friendship during their visit to northern Iraq two months before the invasion (both later voting in favor of the IWR ).

The pair served together for 12 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and traveled the world together, venturing into northern Iraq to address the Kurdish parliament two months before the U.S. invasion of Iraq....

[Peacetrain]

14. Thank you