Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum**New NH primary polling (UNH) Sanders 26% Biden 22% Harris 10% Warren 7%**
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https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1551&context=survey_center_polls
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
irresistable
(989 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Fortunately, California moved their primary to an earlier date.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....10% are leaning toward someone, and 85% are still trying to decide.
That means that 1.3% of those polled are for Sanders, 1.1% are for Biden - 97.6% are looking at someone else or haven't decided yet.
The devil is in the details. I wouldn't get too excited about this poll.
https://scholars.unh.edu/survey_center_polls/552/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... why would the pollster (news organization) do that? It's intellectually dishonest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Yet every single day they get posted.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
namahage
(1,157 posts)Who would you not vote for under any circumstances?
Thirteen percent of likely Democratic voters say they wouldn't under any circumstances vote for Warren, 8% wouldn't vote for Sanders, and 6% wouldn't vote for Bloomberg. Fewer likely voters say they wouldn't under any circumstances vote for Gillibrand (4%), Booker (3%), Harris (3%), Biden (3%), O'Rourke (2%), Gabbard (2%), Former Health and Human Services Secretary Julian Castro (1%), Buttigieg(1%), Klobuchar (1%), Hickenlooper (<1%), or Delaney(<1%). Four percent mention someone else they would not vote for under any circumstances.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...."under any circumstances" (6% no vs. 1.3% yes)
The bottom line is that this poll really doesn't tell us very much when 95% are still undecided.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,078 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)GO BERNIE!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)precisely cuz he's like everyone's favorite uncle and, so personable... but don't think he's gonna run.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
namahage
(1,157 posts)As goes (93.9% white) New Hampshire, so goes the nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Sanders supporters seem to think the race is over after NH. And they're right, just not in the way that they think.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)(sorry for the format, and these are 2016 delegates, there probably will slight changes)
3-Feb IA 44
11-Feb NH 24
22-Feb NV 35
3-Mar AL 53
CA 475
MA 91
MN 77
NC 107
OK 38
TN 67
TX 222
VT 16
VA 95
That's a total of 1344, NH's 24 is only 1.7% of the delegates in the first month.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)It'll be rough for Sanders after NH.
In terms of delegates, we'll be nearly 2/3rds of the way through after March 17. We may have our nominee at that point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)I agree, by March 17 we will have a pretty good idea who the candidate will be, or at least the top two or three. Hopefully many of the candidates will be realistic and drop out by then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)That's when it's scheduled on every list I've seen, such as this one: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2020-presidential-primary-schedule-calendar/amp/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)so, him getting 26% when he received over 60% there in the 2016 primaries is not a great sign for him.
Biden will get a bump if he officially announces, and O'Rourke will as well.
I'm the guy that posted that math says that Sanders has a shot at winning the nomination a month back or so. But, him getting 26% in what is almost a home state is not a great sign the week after he announces.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211736440
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)There were 604 people polled. The % in the OP are based on only 30 people who have decided. That's a statistically useless sampling. Further, of those 30, using the % in the OP, here are the number of people who have decided:
8 for Sanders
7 for Biden
3 for Harris
2 for Warren
10 for all the others.
Those are individual people, not %! So only one person in 604 is separating the top two, and only 6 people in 604 is separating the top four.
Can't see how anyone can get excited over this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Early polls are usually pretty lame, but this is ludicrous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JDC
(10,114 posts)not discounting the poll, just saying I was in VT a lot when I lived in NH and felt like I was in my home state often. Others feel that way also, so they might feel more ties to Bernie there than many other state.
All of New England is a tight community, but VT and NH really are sister states imo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,841 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Regardless of Sanders currently being identified as an Independent, this poll and others show that he still retains broad support among millions of Democrats. That is not something I simply assumed would be the case before the race for the 2020 nomination took off for real. I thought it was true, but I wasn't sure to what degree his 2016 support was just based on those who wanted someone other than Clinton as our nominee.
Clearly some of his 2016 support came from those voters, but now Sanders has competitors like Warren and Harris and Biden and others who will draw liberal support. Even with that he is holding his own and remains among the top contenders for the nomination.
Bernie Sanders pretty much like every other leading Democrat has his flaws, and we all can differ on how we rank the relative flaws of different candidates in regards to how significant they are. But Sanders support runs deep among Democrats as a whole though it remains to be seen which potential candidates will emerge with the deepest support in the field. Bernie can not be dismissed as a fringe candidate among Democratic voters. Whoever wins the Democratic nomination will need the help of current Sanders supporters (regular voters) to win in in the 2020 general election.
I can't say that I've read more than a fraction of the threads in DU GP-Primaries, but from what I have read I am somewhat positively surprised. I was bracing myself for many to the exchanges in this forum to dive into the sewer, and for it being used as a blatant means to tear down candidates with vile innuendos. I've seen less of that than I expected, given what it has been like on DU for the last couple of years. I am encouraged by that. We have to conduct our debates now with the certainty that we must come together once we have our nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)There were 604 respondents (almost half of whom are republicans). Only 30 have said they've made up their minds. If you do the math, EIGHT said they'll vote for Sanders, SEVEN said they'll vote for Biden. Sanders is ahead by ONE person.
It's a LANDSLIDE!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,478 posts)and he shouldnt unless hes 100% committed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gristy
(10,667 posts)What is the key organization that would need to get behind this and help make it happen?
Trump never would have been nominated if the R's had used ranked voting.
And the best candidate would surely result if the D's used it next year.
https://www.fairvote.org/where_is_ranked_choice_voting_used
Using RCV now:
Basalt, Colorado: Adopted in 2002 and will be used when three or more candidates run for mayor.
Berkeley, California: Adopted in 2004 and has been used since 2010 to elect the mayor, city council and city auditor
Cambridge, Massachusetts: In use since the 1940s in multi-winner RCV form for the nine seat city council and six seat school board elected citywide
Carbondale, Colorado: Adopted in 2002 for mayor when there are three or more candidates
Minneapolis, Minnesota: Adopted in 2006 and used since 2009, in elections for 22 city offices, including mayor and city council in single winner elections and some multi-winner park board seats
Oakland, California: Adopted in 2006 and used since 2010 for a total of 18 city offices, including mayor and city council
Portland, Maine: Adopted in 2010 and used since 2011 for electing mayor
Maine: Adopted in 2016 and first used in June 2018 for all state and federal primary elections
San Francisco, California: Adopted in 2002 and used since 2004 to elect the mayor, city attorney, Board of Supervisors and five additional citywide offices
San Leandro, California: Adopted as option in 2000 charter amendment and used since 2010 to elect the mayor and city council
Santa Fe, New Mexico: Adopted in 2008 and used since March 2018 for mayor, city council, and municipal judge
St. Paul, Minnesota: Adopted in 2009, used since 2011 to elect the mayor and city council
Takoma Park, Maryland: Adopted in 2006 and used since 2007 in all elections for mayor and city council
Telluride, Colorado: Adopted in 2008 and used since 2011 to elect the mayor when three candidates run, as in 2011 and 2015
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden