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calimary's JournalMy husband just said "that's the longest and most poorly-tuned dog whistle I've ever heard!"
Ya think?!?!??!
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Yes. With guns.
'Fraid I've kinda gravitated over toward the position stated by the OP. Call it another casualty at the hands of a certain Mr. Holmes of Aurora CO. Something inside me just snapped with this one.
Only a tyrant to those who just HAVE TO HAVE those fucking hand-held weapons of mass destruction.
Honestly, that kind of tyrant I wouldn't mind being. It'd damn well be a public service. It would stop this obscene insanity and jones for wanton useless violence and pointless carnage and death. And it would save innocent lives.
The harder and more inconvenient and time-consuming and hassle-prone, the better. The discouragement factor might not work for everyone. But it'd work against enough of 'em.
When the assault weapons ban was in place, a statistic I heard today indicated that mass murders and multiple gun deaths dropped by 60 percent. True enough, not perfect. Didn't prevent them all. But that was enough to keep at least a few grieving loved ones from sobbing themselves to sleep for the next few decades. That'd be more than okay by me.
Gee, let me think. WHAT A SHAME that some nutcase might be prevented from taking out his frustrations and murderous intentions on a dozen or more innocent people.
WHAT A SHAME that somebody with ill intent might be stopped, or at least slowed down. HOW TRULY, MONSTROUSLY HORRIBLE!
WHAT A SHAME that some sadistic asshole with a hard-on against something and a chip on his shoulder or a Rambo complex or mad at the world and itching to seek some cosmic twisted revenge prompted by some voices in his head or other imagined "grievance" against those good ol' black helicopters and imaginary New World Order meanies would be hampered or hamstrung in his murderous plans.
WHAT A SHAME that such a gutwrenching and unfathomable tragedy should be prevented from befalling on other mothers and fathers. Or sisters. Or brothers. Or grandmas and grandpas. Or nieces. Or nephews. Or young husbands. Or young wives. Or maybe another several six-year-old girls who never did anything wrong except spill ice cream on their party dresses. Whose lives are non-essential? Whose lives are dispensable and disposable so any Tom Dick and Harry can go play Shootout at the OK Corral for real? Who should we sacrifice for the sake of preserving somebody else's right to kill?
I didn't like monster-scale weapons of mass destruction being in the hands of bush-cheney and fiends. I don't like handy-dandy smaller-scale personal-use weapons of mass destruction widely and easily available to the hands of some civilian nutcase or lone wolf with some weird-ass score to settle, either.
I just hit a tipping point with this one, justanidea. This was it. Sorry, but I'm done. My tolerance for gun ownership just dropped down below zero with this one. I tried for years to see the other side's point of view. Tried for YEARS to stay mellow about it. Even tried to get to know firearms up close, myself. Most unsettlingly, I discovered to my dismay that I'm a rather good shot, too. I don't want any part of it. I'd love to be able to take all the guns from everywhere, load them all into a rocket, and launch that rocket straight into the sun so they're all incinerated.
And I'm still waiting for an answer to questions posted days ago - HOW MANY MASSACRES IS ENOUGH for the gun-loving community? HOW MANY? HOW MANY IS ENOUGH? HOW MUCH WANTON SLAUGHTER IS TOLERABLE AND EXCUSABLE for the sake of the almighty "freedom" to shoot people? How many more massacres is it okay for you to shrug off, and say "oh well. Too bad. Second Amendment. End of argument. Suck it up." Sorry, but that's NOT the end of the argument for me.
And every time I see or hear or read - here on DU or anywhere else, that we should just give up on it. End of argument. Don't even ask. Don't even pursue it. Won't happen. All those fabulous guns and weapons of mass destruction are here to stay. NRA too powerful. Don't even bother bringing it up. Nothing will EVER change. It's a dead issue and a closed case - that makes me all the more determined to press ahead with it. And NOT give up.
Frankly, my dear, if it were up to me, I'd make it so that hardly ANYBODY could own
guns and ammo like that.
Imagine if Holmes hadn't been able to afford to buy those 6,000 bullets online? I'd bet you any suggested retail price for any bullet of any size that the loved ones of every one of those 12 lost souls at that movie theater toss and turn in their beds every night for the rest of their lives - wondering what if. What if those bullets had been out of this asshole's price range, would my son, daughter, grandchild, niece, nephew, brother, sister, husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend STILL BE ALIVE.
Actually, I'd go after this - in any way I could think of. As Machiavellian as the next guy, I'd be. Whether it's the cost of bullets, the cost of guns, surcharges on online sales, FBI notifications for alarms going off at the amounts of items, FBI checks and local police background checks on EVERY purchase online or at any gun show or parking lot outside any gun show. ANY way to foul up the works and make it harder to get guns and ammo like this, I'd go for. I'd take a page from all the nitpickers trying to think of ANY way on earth that they can foul up the works on a woman's right to choose. ANY fine print. ANY discouraging factor. ANYTHING. I'd try it all, on every front imaginable and a few that probably aren't. And I'd turn the full force of that on gun ownership.
If I were king.
And I'll bet you're glad I'm not.
Well??? Whaddya gonna do about it, bartlett?
It's got YOUR name on it, too, as long as you call yourself a member of the GOP. What do you intend to do about it? Resign from the party very loudly and publicly? Renouncing individual offenders by name? Do you have anything in mind, or any intention, of making any sort of pushback, or reparations, or interventions with some of your sicker colleagues?
Still waiting. Talk is cheap.
Denial is a VERY powerful force.
VERY powerful.
I like the passage in the OP link that follows the "Jealous egghead, I figured." The next sentence starts out "what an idiot I was." Bull's eye!
That is indeed a very classy move on his part. A social conscience.
I appreciate this very much, and it makes me hold Christian Bale in higher regard. He's "there as himself, not representing Warner Brothers." VERY classy and compassionate. And - um - that leads me to want to ask - WHERE THE FUCK IS WARNER BROTHERS THEN? Shouldn't they be visiting there, too? Maybe making a donation or something, or offering to help compensate the theater or aid the victims or initiate a trust fund in honor of the dead? Or making a contribution to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence? That would be classy, too, and proactive.
www.bradycenter.org/
Hey, Scott Peterson is kinda cute, too. AND he's got groupies.
Go figure. Aim low, ladies. Have at it. Just make damn sure you never piss him off. You already know what he'll do.
SHEESH. Sometimes I think our whole country is going to Hell, in a warp-speed handbasket.
Don't trust ANYONE who says they're independent. Just don't.
Especially if his or her background is as a former republi-CON. That should tell you all you need to know about which candidate should get your vote. Waxman's not completely worthless, and he has a lot of seniority, which means more clout and better positioning. With some newbie, we'd have to start over. And again, if they're fudging on their party affiliation, if they don't have the courage or honesty to put in their ads or on their bumper stickers or yard signs who they are and what affiliation they have, then they're just being sneaky-ass weasels hoping they can fool good voters like you and slither into power in Washington.
Do NOT reward bad behavior like this! And do NOT trust this bloomfield guy. Your instinct not to trust him is spot-on. I'd pay attention to that.
Well, that's encouraging. I just really have to wonder about the intellect (or lack thereof)
or rationality (or lack thereof) or sensibility (or lack thereof) or logic (or lack thereof) or simple human decency (or lack thereof) among the voters who send people like michele bachmann or joe walsh or alan west or any of those irrational reactionary dickheads to Washington and install them in positions of power and influence. THAT is what they like and approve of? THAT is what they want speaking for them in Congress or the Senate? THAT is what they want? THAT is what they think is correct and moral and Christian? Seriously???? WHAT ON EARTH IS WITH THESE PEOPLE??????????
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