Zorra
Zorra's JournalIf ya marry 'em at 12 or 13, ya might even get 'em afore they mama teaches 'em how to wax 'em down.
That way they don't complain if ya don't buy no duck pickin' wax, savin' ya money.
So get 'em young, and raise em' up right, in the righteous ways of all wimmens who's in the lord, and they won't give ya no trouble, iffen's ya don't spare the rod. Jes make sure ya don't let 'em have no books, ceptin' the Bible of course. But it's best if ya gets one what cain't read, and jes preaches the verses what tells 'em their rightful place in creation.
Genesis 3:16
To the woman he said, I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.
Paul of Tarsus:
"... he (man) is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man"
Paul of Tarsus:
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands
Paul of Tarsus:
A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
Cyndy of Ozone Park, Queens:
"I wanna be the one to walk in the sun ~ girls just wanna have fun"
I use one of those big magnets, you know, like they have at auto wrecking yards?
I call the drone in from a blind in the back yard with my nifty "Drone Commander" drone call, and when it gets close enough, I flip the switch on the electro magnetic generator - zap! I trap the unsuspecting drone like a sorry ass fly on flypaper.
Then I take a sledgehammer to it, and take it down to Vern's Wrecking Yard. Vern gives me $100 apiece for them. I don't tell him what it is, and he don't wanna know.
Vern thinks we should start our own TV show, and film it about daily life down at the scrapyard, and I tend to agree, people make a fortune on that lame kind of reality shit nowadays.
We're thinking about calling the show "Drone Dynasty".
Read this: Captive Virgins, Polygamy, Sex Slaves: What Marriage Would Look Like if We Actually
snip---
Polygamy is a norm in the Old Testament and accepted in the New Testament. Biblicalpolygamy.com has pages dedicated to 40 biblical figures, each of whom had multiple wives. The list includes patriarchs like Abraham and Isaac. King David, the first king of Israel may have limited himself to eight wives, but his son Solomon, reputed to be the wisest man who ever lived had 700 wives and 300 concubines! (1 Kings 11)
Concubines are sex slaves, and the Bible gives instructions on acquisition of several types of sex slaves, although the line between biblical marriage and sexual slavery is blurry. A Hebrew man might, for example, sell his daughter to another Hebrew, who then has certain obligations to her once she is used. For example, he cant then sell her to a foreigner. Alternately a man might see a virgin war captive that he wants for himself.
snip---
Since many Christians havent read the whole Bible, most Bible believers are not, as they like to claim, actually Bible believers. Biblical literalists, even those who think themselves nondenominational, almost all follow some theological tradition that tells them which parts of the Bible to follow and how. Yes, sometimes even decent people do get sucked into a sort of text worship that I call bibliolatry, and Bible worship can make a persons moral priorities as archaic and cruel as those of the Iron Age tribesmen who wrote the texts. (I once listened, horrified, while a sweet, elderly pair of Jehovahs Witnesses rationalized the Old Testament slaughter of children with the same words Nazis used to justify the slaughter of Jewish babies.)
But many who call themselves Bible believers are simply, congenitally conservative meaning change-resistant. It is not the Bible they worship so much as the status quo, which they justify by invoking ancient texts. Gay marriage will come, as will reproductive rights, and these Bible believers will adapt to the change as they have others: reluctantly, slowly and with angry protests, but in the end accepting it, and perhaps even insisting that it was Gods will all along.
Yes, I suppose that many conservative "christians", such as the Faith Driven Consumer types spewing their hypocrisy in the OP, may hold the biblical view of sexuality, marriage, and family, described in the article above, but thank the goddess that our democratic laws won't let them get away with most of it.
Research suggests American divorce rates are highest among "Bible-believing" Christians
LGBT are "full of murder" - Phil Robertson]
Lie much, Mr. Robertson? Bear false witness against your neighbor much? Mr. Robertson?
Hate Kills.
Highest Number Of Anti-Gay Murders Ever Reported In 2011: The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs
256 Transgender People Murdered In 2012
https://www.google.com/search?q=pastors+molesting+children&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US
(Data are for the U.S.)
Number of marriages: 2,118,000
Marriage rate: 6.8 per 1,000 total population
Divorce rate: 3.6 per 1,000 population (44 reporting States and D.C.)
...................
![](http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/marriage-equality.gif)
![](http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/rainbowflag.gif)
![](http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/marriage-equality.gif)
![](http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p562/summerbird7/tumblr_lsek01c2Pd1qj2qa7o1_400.jpg)
Due to the fact that the institutions and mores of this society/culture
are wholly based in and on at least 2000 years of extreme continuous Judeo-Christian religion derived patriarchy, it is almost impossible for men to recognize the nuances of entitled superiority that are sometimes expressed by even the most enlightened, egalitarian men.
Women, particularly thoughtful intuitive women, as recipients of chronic, intentional and unintentional insults that result from a score or more centuries of enculturated, institutinalized male authority, dominance, and abuse, are naturally a great deal more sensitive to the numerous nuanced insults of our centuries of violently enforced submission which we have had to endure.
We have every good and valid reason to speak out for equality, and the fact that far too much of what we try to get across about nuanced, and sometimes blatant, manifestations of oppressive institutionalized patriarchy is dismissed by men rendered clueless about sexism as a result of centuries of unchallenged male dominion over females (ie - "because that's the way it is, and the way it has always , so I don't understand what in heck you women are complaining about") has a tendency to sometimes make us resentful.
Especially combined with the sad fact that until fairly recently on the historical scale, women were considered the legal property of their husbands, and less than 100 years ago men did not permit us to vote. This patriarchal mindset of the absolute inferiority of women did not disappear on the day we got the right to vote, and it will probably not disappear altogether for another century of hard core work by women trying to make the concept of essential gender equality understood and made an institutionalized reality.
"If you want to change the world, change yourself". Fine. I've changed myself into St. Zorra, pure hearted archangel of equality. What does that do for me, and other women, as far as the genuine end of patriarchy and the resulting genuine essential equality of women is concerned? If I/we don't open our mouths, we are never going to eat. Social change generally does not occur unless the oppressed speak out and take action to force the issue.
I know that I have a certain small lingering resentment toward men, exacerbated by occasional minor or major manifestations by men of their assumed entitled superiority and my imposed and unjustly designated inferiority that still lingers in in this waning patriarchy.
But this resentment is not hatred; I like both men and women, and try relate to each as individuals to the best of my ability, and I try to recognize the place that men come from. I do not live there, but I believe that I understand that, because men have historically been the culturally dominant gender, it is difficult for them to fully empathize with women in order to feel and understand how we really experience the manifested and non-manifested ramifications of past and present male dominance and entitlement. And, of course, there are still far too many ignorant men out there who believe that a woman's place is barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, (and not driving cars!) listening to them condescendingly read to us from their "rightful place" as men at the head of the dining table, in their well practiced authoritarian style, the dour and silly ancient passages of their Poisonwood Bibles and Korans, which prove to them beyond doubt the superiority of men, and proves once and for all that women are dimwitted inferior creatures not to be taken seriously in their man's world.
Because their unseen great all knowing bearded patriarch god in the sky has decreed that it is so, and this decree has been made obvious, and is manifested by all that has been created.
Or not.
Please try to understand, we women are still dealing with that type of ignorant shit on a mass scale, and it's not going to magically go away overnight.
So...I will continue to speak out and strive for an end to patriarchy, in the hope that someday, a balance between patriarchy and matriarchy will be achieved, where women will be equal, in all aspects of reality, to men, and hope that my efforts are not perceived as hatred by good men, and that these men will see my efforts not as gender warfare in a male vs. female construct, but as a sincere effort to attain genuine gender equality, and more understanding and equality for everyone.
Peace.
When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really Defending
Reality.2. Robertson thinks the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because they didn't believe in Jesus. "All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. Ill give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. Thats eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups."
3. Robertson hates gay people. Robertson in 2010: "Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. Theyre full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."
snip--
Non-whites and non-Christians and gays keep getting the sense that, even setting aside policy, conservatives and Republicans just don't care for them. The "Duck Dynasty" episode, with Ted Cruz and others rushing out to defend Robertson's honor, is just another example of why.
http://www.businessinsider.com/when-you-defend-phil-robertson-heres-what-youre-really-defending-2013-12#ixzz2oDfExbyk
Thank you, Phil, for helping us, through your clueless, ignorant hatred and bigotry, to expose conservatives for what they really are, and in the process, helping us destroy the hateful, racist, homophobic republican party forever.
Free your heart and mind from all the hatred, Phil, transform yourself, learn what love is, so you can experience the joy of really being alive!
+1. Many bigots believe that their religion sanctions and supports their hate, and believe
that their religion gives them every reason and right to hate, and every reason and right to express their hate freely, in an attempt to injure innocent others who are different from them.
They also believe that their hatred, and expressions of hatred, are noble and justified, and should be immune from criticism.
They are, in reality, just a group of sad, ignorant, conservative, hate driven people, who believe in lies so that they can feel better about themselves, and find some false certainty in an uncertain world.
They live a confused, unhappy life, in the midst of a conscience crushing, powerful delusion of false righteousness.
Conservative RW christianity, combined with ignorance/lack of education combined with mass AM RW
hate propaganda radio and Fox News propaganda, has created a large group of poor, white, hateful conservative republicans in many rural areas throughout the country. This has been exacerbated by the continuous deliberate dumbing down of Americans that began during the Reagan era, and which we are still struggling against conservatives to overcome to this day.
Shows like Duck Dynasty are propaganda devices used to generate billions in profit for the unscrupulous, while at the same time keeping the sheep on the path. Duck Dynasty is a mind wipe.
Rural folks were a prime target, a gullible market, a ripe fruit just waiting to be picked, eaten, and stored by the Reagan/RW/Corporatist cabal that began deliberately destroying America back in the early 80's.
I grew up in the country and still live in the country, because I love nature and can't tolerate being separated from it for very long. I remember when AM hate radio first became prevalent during the early years of the Reagan administration. We couldn't get a whole lot of stations, so basically we were forced to either listen to stations that promoted RW hate, religion, or little else, listen to nothing at all. There was no XM/Sirius, and no internet, and we were pretty much out of range of progressive FM. This, naturally, increased peer pressure on everyone to become a hater. Especially kids; if you are smart, and different, in a rural classroom, you have a very difficult row to hoe until you are old enough to leave.
The targeted group in the OP has largely been "created". While I believe the author of the OP writes like a RW elitist exceptionalist who does not seem to be any more aware than the people who she is writing about, and who she has never really met in the flesh, she does have a partially valid point. But I saw firsthand the RW rural monster get assembled. I still see the monster every day, and it really is extreme RW, mean, ugly, and dangerous. It is a fanatically religious, ignorant, extreme RW, violent, brainwashed, gun worshiping, clueless, and very dangerous group of people.
True, it's really not cool to call any group of people trash. Real down home country people are some of the finest kind on the planet, some of the best people I've ever known. But it is stupid and destructive to deny the existence of the dangerous group. I see them fairly often. A few days ago I was told that Obama is creating a list for organ transplants, and this was preventing a relative of the person who told me this from getting medical care. I hear really deranged lies about Obama and Democrats all the time from this group of people. They simply do not have the background and awareness to separate bizarre superstitions and myths from reality in many cases. These poor folks are clearly living a very powerful delusion.
I'm openly LGBT, and this group frightens me. When RW christians say they don't judge people, and leave it up to God to judge, they are almost always lying; they use this lie as a device to mask their own hate and bigotry towards others from themselves. This self-deception why they can't understand why people call them hateful when they hate us for no reason.
And they are all republicans/tea party. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
Don't get me wrong; there are some common sense, aware, very kind country people who are/were smart enough to see through the manipulation. Unfortunately, however, most kids who are smart and aware enough not to yield to the constant conservative bullshit and peer pressure in rural areas take off for a far away college if they can swing it, or they just leave, and never come back, leaving a self-perpetuating and expanding cycle of rural ignorance and shallow, mean spirited RW superstitions behind them forever.
There's a reason why so many rural areas always vote republican, and I tried to explain some of the reasons why from a local POV, so please, don't shoot the messenger here.
Hopefully, someday we can counteract these deluded people who constantly vote against their own interests, and will be able to fund a massive national education effort broad and focused enough to wipe away much of this enforced ignorance from the face of our land.
Eliminating wealthy private interest RW ownership and control of an MSM used for profit and deliberate propaganda purposes would be another major step in eliminating ignorance and superstition in our country, especially in rural areas, as well.
The short story at the link below is pdf.
Obstinate Uncle Otis
Oh, no problem at all. Perfect answer, no mistake,
Beautiful song, beautiful video, I love it, thanks for sharing them here.
Because we are a historically and presently stigmatized minority who are seeking the greatest degree of recognition possible as equal human beings, we have a tendency to celebrate and note our openly LGBT artists. It is a relatively new phenomenon that LGBT artists are widely accepted, so we might make a distinction and note it when artists are LGBT.
In the past, an LGBT artist coming out could be the kiss of death for their career, and this is changing, but is still an issue. It's actually a very personal issue for me.
It's why we may sometimes make an effort to note that an artist is LGBT.
Even though it should not make any difference if the artist is LGBT, str8, green, maroon, male, female, or unspecified.
And you get that.
You "appear" to have a misplaced and extreme naive faith and belief in the forces
of MIC "justice".
And yes, believe it or not, the internet is salted with MIC trolls, and deceitful authority worshiping individuals, whose intentions are to propagandize and lie whenever necessary in order to promote the interests of the MIC, and who deliberately slander whistleblowers who expose, beyond question, the malicious actions and intentions of the global Military Industrial Complex.
There's lots of people of plainly demonstrated low character out there, supporting the immoral and unethical MIC authorities and the reprehensible, sociopathic actions they engage in on a global scale.
There are a multitude of clearly guilty sexual predators running around out there. Why are you so dedicated to "bringing to justice" this particular whistleblower who is, judging from all available evidence, innocent of the allegations against him? You did not present a single shred of tangible incriminating evidence against Julian in your OP. It's nothing but hearsay that cannot be legitimately proven to be a fact in reality, especially given the 4 day time frame of continual alleged assaults.
The fast, easy, simple, absolutely perfect way to neutralize and discredit an innocent person who has blown the whistle on the wealthiest and most powerful entitiy on the planet, the global MIC.
Yes, it is a stone cold undeniable fact that people get sexually abused and raped, and the utmost serious attention needs to be paid to all allegations of sexual abuse. However, although most allegations of sexual misconduct are true, not every allegation of sexual misconduct is true.
When there is overwhelming evidence that false allegations of sexual abuse are clearly conjured up for malicious purposes in order to harm an innocent individual, these allegations must not be allowed to be used as a weapon. Making false, unprovable allegations of sexual misconduct is a quick and simple way to destroy an innocent person's life and credibility without having even a shred of evidence that the person actually did anything unethical or illegal.
Serious attention has been paid for years to the allegations against Julian Assange, and even a blind monkey can see that these allegations were brought against Julian in order to punish him for being a whistleblower against extremely powerful corporate/government entities.
Frivolous, false, allegations of sexual abuse that have no tangible evidence to back them up, and that are clearly used as weapons to harm innocent people, must not be allowed to be used as weapons.
This is the situation with Julian. It's not a matter of hero worship. It is a matter of not allowing the MIC to use its power to falsely imprison a whistleblower because they can, and because he exposed their immoral and unethical actions and intentions.
Ever wonder why Ecuador is willing to harbor Julian? It's because they are not part of the global MIC, and not playing along with its evil, anti-democratic game.
A statement from the Ecuadorean government said: "One year ago today Ecuador took the decision to award asylum to Julian Assange, a journalist who feared political persecution after publishing information sensitive to the US government that exposed war crimes, killings, torture and other human rights abuses that would otherwise never have come to light.
"After thoroughly examining the evidence, the government of Ecuador concluded that it shared Julian Assange's concerns that there is a real and present danger to his freedoms."
The statement said the recent guilty verdict against the WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning and attempts to prosecute Edward Snowden for leaking information about US surveillance underlined why Ecuador granted asylum.
It added: "The decision taken was based on Ecuadorean and international law. As article 14 of the universal declaration of human rights declares, 'everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution'.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/16/ecuador-julian-assange-asylum-anniversary
I have been raped, and I escaped another attempted rape because of intervention at the last second.
Trust me, after being raped, the furthest thing from my mind was to go back to my friendly traveling rapist and let him continue to rape me repeatedly over a 4 day span.
I detest sexual predators. But I also detest everyone, and every thing, that maliciously uses the law as a weapon to harm innocent people.
Great post, thanks ~ but...IMO, in this country, where watching "Duck Dynasty" and other inane
reality television culture/mind control devices are the most important events of the week in the lives of about one half of this nation's population, most of whom have been trained since birth to think and act against their own interests in many aspects of their lives, we will need to find a way to persuade them to go along with the necessary changes.
The sad fact is that the majority of Americans are irrevocably brainwashed by capitalist marketing (economic, religious, social, political, all of the above) of some form or another, and will not willingly give up their Big Macs, Cokes, Marlboros, big screens, and Dodge Rams even if it is indisputably clear that these things are definitely going to kill them, and everything else on the planet, and the planet itself, within 5 years of right now.
I believe the preservation of this planet will necessarily fall to a relatively small, extremely committed and dedicated, highly conscious collective of like minded, altruistic people, who are willing to take chances and make hard choices with a focused radical non-violent agenda. The only solution is world revolution, in so many areas of existence.
You're working for capitalism. Is capitalism working for you?
Profile Information
Gender: FemaleCurrent location: Earth
Member since: Tue Sep 23, 2003, 11:05 PM
Number of posts: 27,670