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Name: Debbie Downer
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Home country: A republic if we can keep it.
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Arkansas police chief resigns after appearing to call for violence over election

Nov. 8, 2020, 7:09 PM EST

By Tim Stelloh

An Arkansas police chief has resigned after he posted messages on a right-wing social media site that appeared to urge people to assault "Marxist" Democrats over the presidential election, the mayor said.

Elliot said that after he consulted with lawyers about Holland's posts, which appeared on the site Parler, he met with Holland, who resigned effective immediately. The posts were no longer visible Sunday, but NBC affiliate KARK of Little Rock published screenshots of some of them.

"When this over and Trump is president for 4 more years," one said, "do not forget what these Marxist bastards have tried to do. When you see one in public get in their face do not give them any peace. Throw water on them at restaurants. Push them off sidewalks. Never let them forget they are traitors and have no right to live in this Republic after what they have done."


He apparently also actually advocated political killings.

"Hang all these Marxist Democrats now," the message said.

Posted by Crunchy Frog | Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:39 AM (7 replies)

It only took only around 3-4 million years, blink of an eye in geological time,

for evolution to turn something with the intelligence of a chimp into something with the intelligence of a human.

As far as birds go, they seem to have evolved different structures in their brains that perform similar functions to the mammalian neocortex.



I tend towards the view that humanlike intelligence is not as unique as we like to believe. I think there's a tendency among many to want to see ourselves as "speshul", and that this impulse can lead to some harmful and destructive behaviors.

I think there's just a philosophical divide that we're on different sides of, as I prefer to think of ourselves being a part of life on Earth, and our minds existing as part of a continuum with other creatures.

At least as far as bird brain question goes, it looks like the current scientific consensus is on my side.

Sen. Mike Lee's tweets against "democracy," explained. VOX

It’s not often that you see a US senator declare that “we’re not a democracy,” let alone to paint that as a good thing. Yet that’s exactly what Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) did in a pair of tweets spanning Wednesday night and Thursday morning, arguing that “democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity [sic] are.” “We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that,” Lee writes.


On the American right, there is a long tradition of arguing that the United States is a “republic, not a democracy,” a distinction its proponents trace back to the founders. It centers not on whether a nation holds competitive elections but the extent to which it puts constraints on majorities from restricting the rights of minorities. Democracies, on this definition, allow for untrammeled majority rule; republics put in place rules that prevent legislators from using their power in tyrannical ways (think the Bill of Rights).


The spin offered by Lee and others on the right, historically speaking, originated as arguments for curbing democracy in the ordinary sense of the word — the ability of majorities to enact popular policies (that conservatives disapproved of). Warning against “the tyranny of the majority” serves as a justification for minority rule.

Quite a lot more in the article.


A long article but the upshot is that Republicans want to change our democratic republic into an authoritarian republic.

Posted by Crunchy Frog | Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:59 PM (6 replies)

the fly knew it's 2 minute limit

Posted by Crunchy Frog | Thu Oct 8, 2020, 02:39 AM (4 replies)

Somebody on 11th Hour last night made a Freudian slip,

When referring to the "cemetery er ceremony" in the Rose Garden. It was really funny 😄.
Posted by Crunchy Frog | Sat Oct 3, 2020, 09:08 PM (1 replies)

I didn't know that about Boris. Fuck.

Posted by Crunchy Frog | Fri Oct 2, 2020, 03:21 AM (0 replies)

I don't think it's a trick, but I do think it's a gambit.

He's counting on people rallying around him in his moment of crisis, and playing the martyr. And I'm not sure that enough people have the sense not to be sucked in.

Also, who's going to speak Ill of him during his heroic struggle? Who's going to continue to mention his performance in that debate.

I think it's an act of desperation on his part because he would literally rather die than lose.

In any event, I think the timing is good for him and bad for us.
Posted by Crunchy Frog | Fri Oct 2, 2020, 02:12 AM (1 replies)

I just came back to this news after relaxing with a little YouTube.

Whether he actually has it or not, I think it's some sort of whacko con, and a desperate last ditch effort to get reelected.

I honestly think he'd rather die than be a "loser". If he takes Biden down with him, he'll see it as a double victory, even if it's through a haze of sedation on a ventilator.

Now I need to calm down with some Bacardi.
Posted by Crunchy Frog | Fri Oct 2, 2020, 01:23 AM (3 replies)

She's an "originalist" who thinks that the 14th and 15th Ammendments are illegitimate. From DKos.

But there’s something even more odd about how conservatives like Barrett apply originalism. Because they seem to believe that the “original meaning” of every word and phrase just happens to be a conservative meaning. And where they can’t find the meaning that they want, these dedicated preservationists have a second approach … throw it out. Throw it all out. Like the entire 14th Amendment.


As far as the 14th Amendment goes, it includes what are now referred to as the Citizenship Clause, the Privileges Clause, the Due Process Clause, and the Equal Protection Clause. In short, it says that everyone born in the United States is a full citizen, with the full rights due to a citizen, and can’t be deprived of those rights unless they’re given due process of law. All of this makes the 14th Amendment integral to questions of citizenship, and foundational for Civil Rights legislation. It’s such an important amendment, that legal scholars have called it “the second Constitution” for its attempts to tear out the elements of slavery built into the original document. Among other things, the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 rests entirely on the authority granted to Congress by the 14th Amendment.


Back in 2011, The Atlantic took a look at this question and how conservative Republicans became “14th Amendment deniers.” For some Republicans, the 14th Amendment was viewed as being only intended to help those who had been directly enslaved, and not applicable to future generations. This view has become common in right-wing media, and sorry as that sounds, it’s not even the most radical view. The even uglier approach has been to outright challenge the validity of 14th Amendment because members of Confederate states were not seated in Congress when the amendment was proposed just after the end of the Civil War. Because of this, say the deniers, the Congress itself was illegitimate, and so anything it recommended—including the 14th and 15th Amendments—are illegitimate.


Some quotes from Amy's writings, “Congress has to decide whether to … rely on the power conferred by the possibly illegitimate Fourteenth Amendment.” “The originalist legislator might have to face questions … such as the legitimacy of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

What happens when the SCOTUS starts throwing out Constitutional amendments that are foundational to the functioning of moders society?

I trust myself and my mother,

and other white women whose politics I'm familiar with, as well as a number of public figures. I can't speak to anyone else.

How about white men, the Dicks of the world?

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