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Angry and tired. And tired of being angry. Still in The Struggle.

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Wow, what a snotty response.

When DU was young, we always asked for sources to back up claims. People that mock verifiable sources perpetuate the "fake news"/"alternate facts" universe. And you obviously don't know that Black people are getting killed at higher rates than whites or you wouldn't be spewing this bullshit talking point.

Meanwhile, I'm a librarian and am happy to give you many more sources so you can actually stick up for Black people being murdered by cops instead of rolling over for the racists who push this "but white people!" like, "Oh, well. That's just the way it is!"

Northeastern University:
THE RESEARCH IS CLEAR: WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT MORE LIKELY THAN BLACK PEOPLE TO BE KILLED BY POLICE.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/07/16/the-research-is-clear-white-people-are-not-more-likely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/

Harvard School of Public Health:
Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

WaPo:
Aren’t more white people than black people killed by police? Yes, but no.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/

And louder for you, because this talking point puts you in shitty company:
NY Times:
Asked About Black Americans Killed by Police, Trump Says, ‘So Are White People’
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-white-people-killed-by-police.html

*Edited b/c typos.

White kids/people aren't specifically profiled for their skin color, and

white killings-by-cops happen at a much lower percentage rate than cops killing BIPOC. Knowing the facts debunks that racist talking point. Remember: white privilege doesn't mean your life has been easy, it means it hasn't been made harder by your skin color.

But maybe you'll understand it better coming from the National Academy of Sciences:

Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex, 2019
https://pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

We interrupt the coverage of...

This 'bout sums up the 2020s for me so far.

https://twitter.com/michele_norris/status/1383035972263280641

Text:

We interrupt the coverage of the shooting of a 13-yr-old boy that interrupted coverage of traffic stop shooting of a 20–yr-old man that interrupted coverage of Derek Chauvin trial for the killing of George Floyd for news of 8 ppl killed at Fedex facility in Indianapolis

America

The Constitution is not infallible.

The framers were in the midst of a war with England and created a document that

a) assumed no free man (i.e., a man free from the divine right of kings) would favor a tyrant;
b) only men of "honor" would be elected to Congress by a free electorate;
c) all the MEN making these decisions were white landowners who created a document that both protected their wealth/power/status/privilege and was flexible enough for evolving interpretation and revision.

IOW, there is no fail-safe for the majority under the Constitution when foxes are in the hen house. Literally, we are held hostage by voting cycles and we have to change procedural rules (which again, assumes only honorable people are elected to Congress).

There is also no professional penalty for lying to the detriment of the nation. Censure is toothless. It is an imperfect system created by imperfect men and it can be changed. Abolish the electoral college, and go with straight majority rule. The judicial system is designed to protect minority rights under majority rule. (In theory, though that, too, is made ineffective by racist authoritarian abusers. But that's a rant for another thread.)

So it wasn't individuals that failed us here, it's the systems we have in place. That's not to say that the 43 aren't responsible for their actions, but that their actions only succeeded because of the system.

My submission for the Tweet du jour:

https://twitter.com/what_eats_owls/status/1360695913019179009
https://twitter.com/what_eats_owls/status/1360698165293240320
Text for whoever needs it:

The most American thing I can think of is that 57 people voted to convict and 43 voted to acquit, and the 43 people won

We can teach kids that the Declaration of Independence states all men are created equal, that our constitution guarantees equal treatment, but the reality is that "some people count more than others" was built into this country and until we exorcise it this will keep happening.



Republicans gonna Republican.

The Lincoln Project is the "leftist" arm of the GOP (Generators of Propaganda). Advertising is their thing, they've just evolved since Gingrich's direct mail campaigns. This shocks so many on the left because when it came to Trump (and Trumpers), they were actually telling the truth. But I'm sure it's a one-off because these guys are the party of Reagan and the Bushes.* And that party is toxic and conservative AF.








*Reagan and the Bushes would be my punk band name, if I were ever to start one.

This line of reporting makes me very uneasy.

I know SO MANY people who grew up impoverished and/or have financial problems now who have never been driven to National insurrection. Considering how badly we treat poor people - especially BIPOC, who traditionally have the highest rates of debt/financial trauma - blaming the "poor whites" who defaulted on business loans or taxes feels like a microaggression that excuses white insurrectionists because of their financial background but may end up creating policies or practices that will be harmfully and/or unfairly directed at other protests/protestors, including peaceful ones. Remember, Hoover kept files on MLK and John Lennon. That's the norm of our history and "reporting" like this only serves to justify continuing the war against poor people in the US.

The article never mentioned race because

We live in a society where white is assumed. The only time anyone’s race is specified in news reports are Black and other POC. Unless white people are killing Black folk or acting overtly racist. It is not race-baiting to note the absence of race, but it is racist to assume anything in the US exists in a race-neutral context.

Edited to add: the cop didn’t need to expressly think it. That’s the insidious nature of system racism. I’m not saying this cop would have emptied a can of whoop-ass on a Black shoplifter, but I bet the encounter would have gone MUCH differently if the family was Black.

"A" police officer, singular.

He's the real anomaly in the force, as opposed to the supposed singular "bad apples" who always seem to kill Black people with other officers standing around not doing anything. So glad for this cop and the people he helped. This is not the norm, and quite honestly, no one, cops or otherwise, should have to pay out of his own pocket for poor people's groceries in the wealthiest country on the planet.

Also: guaranteed 100% the shop lifters were white. Why?

a) Somerset, MA is 98%+ white.
b) The officer is white so when he saw the two kids, he "saw" his own children.
c) He bought them a $250 gift card instead of arresting them, or worse.
d) All of the above.

Anyone using this story to voice opposition to the Defund the Police movement have no fucking concept of what policing is like for nonwhite people.

Except there is a long history with Republicans and ESS.

Here's former Rep Peter King (R) talking on election day 2004, when DU was a-buzz with fear for possible voting fraud by the Republicans using ES&S and other e-voting machines:

Here's an article from St. John's Law Review outlining ongoing problems with ES&S systems (among others): https://scholarship.law.stjohns.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1247&context=lawreview

This ain't new, they stole the Dominion voting machine fraud rant from us (with no evidence), but we have 16 years of reporting the ES&S machines are unsecure and subject to tampering.
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