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JustAnotherGen

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April 26, 2014

Spinoff of 1strongs Nov 5th thread

Just in case he doesn't make it here - putting in Journal for November.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4869010

April 15, 2014

Welcome to DU

This:


Their scam relies upon creating a common enemy based upon the fear that the marks will lose something of great value to them to this common enemy.



I wish liberals/progressives at DU would step back and read that - as well as sheshe's bolded quotes elsewhere in this thread.

I posted a Jimmy Carter quote this past weekend that received many recs - and you are basically saying the same thing he has.

They prey on fear and the concept that "the other" has taken something from them.

What's the difference between my white husband and the average white male Republican? He looks at wealthier white men as either "marks" for his artwork and business or as impediments to his accumulation on wealth. He does not feel that way about any other group.

But then again we live in the tri state area and his business thrived during the downturn. Know why? 50 miles away in Manhattan the rich white guys on Wall Street went shopping. So did the guys in Red Bank, Princeton, the gold coast, Greenwich etc etc.

Those same guys laugh at the under employed guy in a square state just getting by that turns around and votes for someone like Romney.

We on our side must go TOWARDS that. We cannot continue to run away from their tactic of the "other" anymore.

April 11, 2014

Pres Jimmy Carter: Why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the GOP

https://thegrio.com/2014/04/11/jimmy-carter-race-motivates-white-men-to-vote-republican/


And in a no holds barred interview with Salon, the “Man from Plains” spoke plainly about why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the Republican party in multiple elections.

“It’s race. That’s been prevalent in the South…. Ever since Nixon ran — and ever since Johnson didn’t campaign in the deep South, the Republicans have solidified their hold there,” he said.

Carter also said that GOP attacks on programs like food stamps have a coded appeal for the wealthy.

“Those kind of things just exalt the higher class, which is the whites, and they draw a subtle, but very effective racial line throughout the South,” Carter said.

Click here to read more.


Ahem - so as I've been saying . . . well - just sayin'.
April 11, 2014

Michael Eric Dyson to Cornel West: You ain’t that important

http://rollingout.com/politics/michael-eric-dyson-blasts-cornel-west-aint-important/#_

I’ve probably known him longer than anybody on this panel. Hung out with him,” Dyson said. “I’ve been a victim of his vicious assaults in public. I’ve held my powder. That ain’t my usual nature. [Dr. Farah Griffin] called me up and I listened to Farah. Because she loves us both [and was] trying to negotiate a cease of hostilities. But I’m not going to pretend that it doesn’t hurt for you to call me a sellout because I disagree with you. You can be ‘ride-or-die,’ but while you’re riding — see who your vehicle is rolling over.”

Dr. Dyson voiced his belief that Dr. West’s criticisms of President Obama stem from his personal vendetta against the president after West felt that he had been “snubbed.” Dr. West did not receive an invitation to Obama’s 2013 inauguration after attending the president’s first inauguration in 2009. One of West’s major criticisms has centered on his belief that the White House is not providing access to those working for civic and legislative causes.

“With [former President] Bill Clinton, you’re rhapsodizing about access [to the White House] — if access is a problem, it was a problem then. Not because you didn’t get a ticket to go to the inauguration for Obama!” Dr. Dyson stated emphatically. “I’m not talking about just [West], he ain’t the only one. But since he’s been public about it, here’s my response to [his criticism]: I love you, but you can’t talk about love and act unlovingly. It’s the personal assault on Obama that I found problematic, not the principled critique. I’m not mad at principled critique, but you still could be wrong. But when you start indicting my soul like I’ve given my soul over to Obama or the devil — now you’re tripping. You ain’t that important. You’re not God to be able to leverage the divine assignment of privilege or punishment.”



Number23 - where are you?


And with that - Good for Mr. Dyson. He is handling West very well.

And well - West comes from a place of god/spirituality and Dyson comes from a place of reason and logic.

I could see where bringing Dyson's soul into things probably really pissed Dyson off.

April 8, 2014

Race Based Violence? Or not? You Tell Me

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/mi-men-arrested-for-viciously-beating-army-veteran-they-considered-a-ngger-lover/


Police in Michigan arrested three men who are accused of viciously beating an Army veteran who objected to their racist remarks.

According to the Westland Police Department, United States Army veteran Adam Wagner went to a 7-11 convenience store at 2 a.m. Saturday morning to purchase a pack of cigarettes. Once inside, he noticed three men harassing the female clerk, and he told them to stop.

When he walked outside, the trio followed him. At this point, Wagner told police, they noticed the Army insignia on Wagner’s car and began to taunt him about the military.

“They were saying, ‘How can you be in the military when they let black people in the military?’ They used the ‘n word’, saying [he] was an ‘n-word’ lover,” Wagner’s girlfriend told WJBK.

“I took pretty, pretty good offense to that because my best friend in the army was black. He saved my life,” Wagner added.

The suspects — all of whom had shaved heads — then began to assault Wagner, punching and kicking him until he was on the ground.




Detroit Free Press Article -


The men followed the victim outside to the parking lot. The suspects noticed military insignias on the victim’s car and then began to make insulting remarks about him and the U.S. military, Jedrusik said. They began punching and kicking him.

The attackers fled on foot. The victim followed them while trying to call police, but the attackers beat him up once more, knocking him to the ground, punching and kicking him again, said police.

“They beat the heck out of him,” Jedrusik said. “They beat him pretty bad.”

They suspects may have been “either intoxicated or just causing trouble,” he said.

The victim got help from a resident who called the police. Paramedics took him to a hospital and he was released later. He suffered lacerations to his face and mouth, head injuries and a broken nose.




Just a couple of drunks out for a good time? Or racially motivated because he served in a military that allows black people to serve in it?

Maybe they felt threatened because they heard a rap song once? Maybe he bought skittles? Maybe because he laid down in the fetal position on cement/blacktop he was going to use the ground as a weapon?

April 5, 2014

I'd like to wait and hear the facts

Before we jump to conclusions.

Could it have been a hate crime? Sure.

Could it have been racial prejudice? Sure.

But I would hope the same folks who were wait and see about Zimmerman will give the folks in this scenario the same benefit of the doubt they did Zimmerman. Let's Let the justice system do its job. I mean - It is flawless doncha know?

And if these guys have a good lawyer who makes the point the man was armed with a truck and was driving while white in a black neighborhood and they get off/walk - that I will see oodles of threads and posts about how justice was served.

OP - edit your post to read Dominant Culture and Racial Prejudice and you will get entirely different responses. The way you have framed the discussion raises the hackles of the average white guy in America with a professional victim mentality.

April 4, 2014

Oh well

In reading this thread it appears that Florida Law allows for the names to be released. Sunshine and stuff ya know.

The people who were angry - we've taken action. The jurors are non starters in those actions. They don't register.

The angry mobs from "the right" agreed with their decision and the angry mobs from "the left" are focused on Snowden, Manning and Greenwald.

The people who know that the ONLY name that matters here is Trayvon Martin - we could care less what either one of those angry mobs does or doesn't do. Just get out of our way when reach down and lift up a young black man who is getting treated like shit in America. Stay out of my way when I question why black little girls in Pre school and kindergarten are targeted maliciously for suspension.

Just stay out of our way - focus on your guns, your pot, your porn, your god, your guns, your flag (depending on which mob you fall into). Stay out of our way and we'll all get along just fine.

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