JustAnotherGen
JustAnotherGen's JournalThanks for the link to te Fried chicken thread
Journal!Spinoff of 1strongs Nov 5th thread
Just in case he doesn't make it here - putting in Journal for November.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4869010
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Their scam relies upon creating a common enemy based upon the fear that the marks will lose something of great value to them to this common enemy.
I wish liberals/progressives at DU would step back and read that - as well as sheshe's bolded quotes elsewhere in this thread.
I posted a Jimmy Carter quote this past weekend that received many recs - and you are basically saying the same thing he has.
They prey on fear and the concept that "the other" has taken something from them.
What's the difference between my white husband and the average white male Republican? He looks at wealthier white men as either "marks" for his artwork and business or as impediments to his accumulation on wealth. He does not feel that way about any other group.
But then again we live in the tri state area and his business thrived during the downturn. Know why? 50 miles away in Manhattan the rich white guys on Wall Street went shopping. So did the guys in Red Bank, Princeton, the gold coast, Greenwich etc etc.
Those same guys laugh at the under employed guy in a square state just getting by that turns around and votes for someone like Romney.
We on our side must go TOWARDS that. We cannot continue to run away from their tactic of the "other" anymore.
Pres Jimmy Carter: Why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the GOP
https://thegrio.com/2014/04/11/jimmy-carter-race-motivates-white-men-to-vote-republican/Its race. Thats been prevalent in the South . Ever since Nixon ran and ever since Johnson didnt campaign in the deep South, the Republicans have solidified their hold there, he said.
Carter also said that GOP attacks on programs like food stamps have a coded appeal for the wealthy.
Those kind of things just exalt the higher class, which is the whites, and they draw a subtle, but very effective racial line throughout the South, Carter said.
Click here to read more.
Ahem - so as I've been saying . . . well - just sayin'.
Michael Eric Dyson to Cornel West: You ain’t that important
http://rollingout.com/politics/michael-eric-dyson-blasts-cornel-west-aint-important/#_Dr. Dyson voiced his belief that Dr. Wests criticisms of President Obama stem from his personal vendetta against the president after West felt that he had been snubbed. Dr. West did not receive an invitation to Obamas 2013 inauguration after attending the presidents first inauguration in 2009. One of Wests major criticisms has centered on his belief that the White House is not providing access to those working for civic and legislative causes.
With [former President] Bill Clinton, youre rhapsodizing about access [to the White House] if access is a problem, it was a problem then. Not because you didnt get a ticket to go to the inauguration for Obama! Dr. Dyson stated emphatically. Im not talking about just [West], he aint the only one. But since hes been public about it, heres my response to [his criticism]: I love you, but you cant talk about love and act unlovingly. Its the personal assault on Obama that I found problematic, not the principled critique. Im not mad at principled critique, but you still could be wrong. But when you start indicting my soul like Ive given my soul over to Obama or the devil now youre tripping. You aint that important. Youre not God to be able to leverage the divine assignment of privilege or punishment.
Number23 - where are you?
And with that - Good for Mr. Dyson. He is handling West very well.
And well - West comes from a place of god/spirituality and Dyson comes from a place of reason and logic.
I could see where bringing Dyson's soul into things probably really pissed Dyson off.
Race Based Violence? Or not? You Tell Me
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/mi-men-arrested-for-viciously-beating-army-veteran-they-considered-a-ngger-lover/According to the Westland Police Department, United States Army veteran Adam Wagner went to a 7-11 convenience store at 2 a.m. Saturday morning to purchase a pack of cigarettes. Once inside, he noticed three men harassing the female clerk, and he told them to stop.
When he walked outside, the trio followed him. At this point, Wagner told police, they noticed the Army insignia on Wagners car and began to taunt him about the military.
They were saying, How can you be in the military when they let black people in the military? They used the n word, saying [he] was an n-word lover, Wagners girlfriend told WJBK.
I took pretty, pretty good offense to that because my best friend in the army was black. He saved my life, Wagner added.
The suspects all of whom had shaved heads then began to assault Wagner, punching and kicking him until he was on the ground.
Detroit Free Press Article -
The attackers fled on foot. The victim followed them while trying to call police, but the attackers beat him up once more, knocking him to the ground, punching and kicking him again, said police.
They beat the heck out of him, Jedrusik said. They beat him pretty bad.
They suspects may have been either intoxicated or just causing trouble, he said.
The victim got help from a resident who called the police. Paramedics took him to a hospital and he was released later. He suffered lacerations to his face and mouth, head injuries and a broken nose.
Just a couple of drunks out for a good time? Or racially motivated because he served in a military that allows black people to serve in it?
Maybe they felt threatened because they heard a rap song once? Maybe he bought skittles? Maybe because he laid down in the fetal position on cement/blacktop he was going to use the ground as a weapon?
I'd like to wait and hear the facts
Before we jump to conclusions.
Could it have been a hate crime? Sure.
Could it have been racial prejudice? Sure.
But I would hope the same folks who were wait and see about Zimmerman will give the folks in this scenario the same benefit of the doubt they did Zimmerman. Let's Let the justice system do its job. I mean - It is flawless doncha know?
And if these guys have a good lawyer who makes the point the man was armed with a truck and was driving while white in a black neighborhood and they get off/walk - that I will see oodles of threads and posts about how justice was served.
OP - edit your post to read Dominant Culture and Racial Prejudice and you will get entirely different responses. The way you have framed the discussion raises the hackles of the average white guy in America with a professional victim mentality.
Oh well
In reading this thread it appears that Florida Law allows for the names to be released. Sunshine and stuff ya know.
The people who were angry - we've taken action. The jurors are non starters in those actions. They don't register.
The angry mobs from "the right" agreed with their decision and the angry mobs from "the left" are focused on Snowden, Manning and Greenwald.
The people who know that the ONLY name that matters here is Trayvon Martin - we could care less what either one of those angry mobs does or doesn't do. Just get out of our way when reach down and lift up a young black man who is getting treated like shit in America. Stay out of my way when I question why black little girls in Pre school and kindergarten are targeted maliciously for suspension.
Just stay out of our way - focus on your guns, your pot, your porn, your god, your guns, your flag (depending on which mob you fall into). Stay out of our way and we'll all get along just fine.
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