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Stuart G

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I thought I knew a lot, and I found out... how little I knew about what I know. And how much more there is to learn, if I listen and read what others have to say.

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7 Key Pieces of Information about Trump Documents in Photo: CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics/mar-a-lago-trump-photo-annotations-dg/index.html

CNN)Included in the government's latest court filing — in its effort to investigate Donald Trump's handling of classified materials — is a single, tantalizing photograph showing an array of documents found on the property of the former president's Florida resort.

Taken by the FBI, the photograph shows several documents labeled with so-called "classification markings." These government codes are designed to indicate the sensitivity of the information they refer to — and the rules for how it is meant to be handled.
Although the contents of the more than 100 classified documents that were recovered from Mar-a-Lago remain unknown, the government markings on this handful of pages offer intriguing clues about the sensitivity and provenance of the information they contain.

CNN breaks down what we can learn from the markings in the photograph.
1. Time magazine covers. These are not classified, but they were apparently placed among classified documents. While
Trump would have been allowed to store magazine covers in a secure government facility, he is prohibited from
keeping classified information in an unsecured storage room
Cover sheet for information classified SECRET/SCI, or sensitive compartmented information. Cover sheets serve two
purposes: To allow the handler of the information to know what level of classification they are dealing with and to
shield the contents of the classified material from someone without a “need to know.” The cover sheet
itself is not classified.

2. Cover sheets like the ones found at Mar-a-Lago can also include markings that indicate special handling procedures,
called “controls,” that can hint at the kind of information that might be inside. (See 6 and 7). However, since cover
sheets are standardized documents that only list the highest possible classification level of the accompanying
material, it’s impossible to conclude exactly what kinds of documents are inside based on the cover sheet alone. Documents marked SECRET with the controls of ORCON and NOFORN. ORCON stands for “originator controlled” and
it means that the agency that owns the information must approve its release or dissemination. NOFORN indicates that
the information cannot be released to foreign nationals without approval. Both of these are fairly common markings.

This TS cover sheet has HCS-P/SI/TK control markings. Here’s what that means:
HCS-P stands for “HUMINT control system product,” and it indicates that the information was derived from
clandestine human sources. But there are some protections: Most finished intelligence that contains HCS-P
information generally doesn’t disclose the identity of the specific source but provides a general statement about the
source’s reliability and access, according to one government source who routinely accesses classified documents.
SI stands for Special Intelligence, and suggests that the information was derived from what is called “signals
intelligence” — things like intercepted foreign phone calls and emails, for exampl

3. The “SECRET” designation means that if the information were inappropriately disclosed, it could cause “serious
damage” to national security, according to the government’s definition.
t for information classified SECRET/SCI, or sensitive compartmented information. Cover sheets serve two
purposes: To allow the handler of the information to know what level of classification they are dealing with and to
shield the contents of the classified material from someone without a “need to know.” The cover sheet
itself is not classified.
. Cover sheets like the ones found at Mar-a-Lago can also include markings that indicate special handling procedures,
called “controls,” that can hint at the kind of information that might be inside. (See 6 and 7). However, since cover
sheets are standardized documents that only list the highest possible classification level of the accompanying
material, it’s impossible to conclude exactly what kinds of documents are inside based on the cover sheet alone.
The “SCI” appendix means that the information is “compartmented,” or limited to only a select group of officials who
are cleared to see it. It might refer to a Document marked SECRET with the controls of ORCON and NOFORN. ORCON stands for “originator controlled” and it means that the agency that owns the information must approve its release or dissemination. NOFORN indicates that the information cannot be released to foreign nationals without approval. Both of these are fairly common markings.

This TS cover sheet has HCS-P/SI/TK control markings. Here’s what that means:
HCS-P stands for “HUMINT control system product,” and it indicates that the information was derived from
clandestine human sources. But there are some protections: Most finished intelligence that contains HCS-P
information generally doesn’t disclose the identity of the specific source but provides a general statement about the
source’s reliability and access, according to one government source who routinely accesses classified documents.


4. White House document marked “Confidential.” This is the lowest level of classification, but CONFIDENTIAL level
information can still cause “damage” to national security if it is inappropriately disclosed, according to the
government’s definition.

5 Documents marked SECRET with the controls of ORCON and NOFORN. ORCON stands for “originator controlled” and
it means that the agency that owns the information must approve its release or dissemination. NOFORN indicates that
the information cannot be released to foreign nationals without approval. Both of these are fairly common markings.


6 This TS cover sheet has HCS-P/SI/TK control markings. Here’s what that means:
HCS-P stands for “HUMINT control system product,” and it indicates that the information was derived from clandestine human sources. But there are some protections: Most finished intelligence that contains HCS-P
information generally doesn’t disclose the identity of the specific source but provides a general statement about the
source’s reliability and access, according to one government source who routinely accesses classified documents.

7. SI stands for Special Intelligence, and suggests that the information was derived from what is called “signals
intelligence” — things like intercepted foreign phone calls and emails, his TS cover sheet has HCS-P/SI/TK control markings. Here’s what that means: HCS-P stands for “HUMINT control system product,” and it indicates that the information was derived from
clandestine human sources. But there are some protections: Most finished intelligence that contains HCS-P
information generally doesn’t disclose the identity of the specific source but provides a general statement about the
source’s reliability and access, according to one government source who routinely accesses classified documents.
TK stands for Talent Keyhole, which is a highly classified government satellite program.


I also have to apologize for not getting it together all at once, but it was too much to copy and paste for me...Sorry



Donald Trump is totally screwed beyond belief...

Please read the link below (in General Discussion forum ):

credit to: .....Roland 99..... for posting it ................title of link:

Bradley Moss - Great summary of the DOJ filing last night"!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217102975

ALSO CHECK OUT THIS ONE:

posted by ...fightforfreedom

title of post below, The best news from yesterdays DOJ filing.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217102946



One Very Short Sentence; "IF IT WERE EASY, IT WOULD BE, "EASY!!"

As Chuk Jones once said (he created the Road Runner and Wiley E. Coyote)

......................" That's All Folks".............................

Thank You for reading this,

Stuart G

Today's email about winning the 2020 election is proof that Trump listens to nobody but himself.

....I am not sure, but I think that he has been told to check his correspondences out with somebody he trusts.
(I have no inside information so, this is a guess only
............. Somebody has told him this..(I guess)................

.So today's idea that there should be a re-run of the 2020 election because: FBI buried Hunter's laptop story,
is proof he refuses to have somebody approve his correspondences.

...."NOBODY WOULD APPROVE SUCH AN IDIOTIC IDEA..."

Maybe after today, Donald Trump will get somebody to approve his correspondences..........................

post by Nevilledog at this link:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217096450


Maybe..., but don't bet on it....................

Very ugly a story about Gregg Abbott: From February, NBC New:

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/texas-governor-calls-citizens-report-parents-transgender-kids-abuse-rcna17455

Title of story, & synopsis of article

"Texas governor calls on citizens to report parents of transgender kids for abuse"

If you read this story, it proves that Abbott should lose the election in Texas.

verified by NBC News

When Trump is indicted there will be celebrations. When Trump is convicted, there will be free

parties for everyone. Not riots, just celebrations that they Slobfather goes to jail. [or wherever the hell he goes).

Trump is a traitor, plain and simple. He is also someone who had a chance to the right thing, and he called it "a hoax"
Donald Trump needs a nice quiet prison to celebrate his conviction.

And, I will have one of those parties...!!!!

Does anyone here think that Donald Trump has an idea of what is coming for him?


The negativity is enormous and will be for a long time.

And it is just the start, and a whole lot more to come as we all see the rest of what Trump really did.

Especially, from Atty. General of New York State: Letitia James

I Remember Watching Watergate. As I Watched, I thought, "It Couldn't Get Worse" It Got Worse!!

Through all the testimony, & news, I said to myself. "It Couldn't Get Worse Than This"

I was totally wrong. It got worse and worse. At the end, Nixon resigned and left the presidency.
...It got worse. Even after the five minute gap in the tapes, it got worse. I feel that this is
the same. It will get worse. Somehow and someway, it will get worse. Well, it ain't Nixon it is
Trump. Trump's history of being a crook, was/is far worse than Nixon's history.
.....If you think you have seen it all, I think there is much more coming. What will that be?
.....I haven't a clue.......says Stu....

.....Thank You for reading this.
..... Stuart G

How about a...."TOTAL LANDSLIDE"....win in November?...... Main Issue: "Roe v. Wade"

Tell everyone: Who is in favor of "Roe v. Wade"?
Who is AGAINST ........................ "Roe v. Wade"?

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Show is over....................... We WIN IN A TOTAL .......LANDSLIDE!!!!!

YES, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW

..EVERYONE.. MOST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY BELIEVE THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL..
.ESPECIALLY IN CERTAIN CASES...................................................

AND IN THOSE CASES, A WOMAN SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER STATE TO GET AN ABORTION....

SHOW IS OVER ......REPUBLICANS... LOSE BIG TIME....YES..............................................

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!!

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!!

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!!

Most everyone in the U.S.A is in favor of abortion in many cases. It must be legal in all cases!!
.
.WE WIN IN A LANDSLIDE...THIS IS AUGUST...
WHEN WE TELL EVERYONE, THAT THIS IS........'THE ISSUE' WE WIN IN A LANDSLIDE...

YES,...TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!! .PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..

YES......TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!! TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW...PLEASE!!

................ALSO:...............PLEASE PASS THIS ON.........AND ON ....AND ON....AND ON....ON...ON..& ON

The key are sentences below. (2 posts & credit is given to those who posted)

from a post by: alwaysinasnit ...credit to him for fining it.....at link below:

"Twice, in the document, Trump admits he took government documents, which is illegal under the Espionage Act and the Presidential Records Act".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217072455

also at this quote (at link below) posted by brush :

"Trump personally went through the stolen docs to see which ones to keep and which one to give back to the FBI" , and he did this in front of witnesses

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17072326

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My opinion only: "Trump is screwed" ...Nobody above the law.. That sentence means there may be a trial, penalty, and possibility of ... prison time" Up to the judge & jury.. I believe that we will see a former president indicted, tried and convicted of taking documents.

please think about this:........"IF PEOPLE AT DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND CAN FIND THAT TRUMP BROKE THE LAW,

DO YOU THINK THAT PROSECUTORS CAN FIND THE SAME THING?"
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