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May 7, 2015
One person's dead kids are another person's minor distraction.
Are the ammosexuals pushing for guns here in General Discussion lately purposely trying to push voters away from the Democratic Party when they headline their views on the value of the lives of our children like this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026632741
Really, you don't make friends by minimizing the value of the lives of our loved ones.
You just don't.
May 3, 2015
Are we not allowed to call Zimmerman a murderer here on DU?
I got my posts hidden twice for referring to Zimmerman's gunstalking and killing of Trayvon Martin as a Murder.
It seems that Zimmerman supporters here want me to call it a self-defense, so that their delicate fee-fees don't get hurt when they openly support Zimmerman in his murder of Trayvon Martin.
I'm sorry if it hurts the fee-fees of the delicate flowers on DU who support Zimmerman, but what Zimmerman supporters support is murder, not self defense.
And if I am banned from DU entirely for calling it murder, then so be it.
I stand behind my words.
Zimmerman is a murderer, and those here who support him here on DU and elsewhere are supporters of murder.
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: One of your posts has been hidden by a DU Jury
Mail Message
On Fri May 1, 2015, 02:09 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Look, I get it. You support Zimmerman. You support murder. (nt)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=166356
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This is a deliberate character smear. This poster must be aware of the definition of murder, and nothing in the post he cites advocates murder.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri May 1, 2015, 02:21 AM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Saying the poster supports murder is over the top.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: definitely over the top.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Not sure of what happens in this group...but voting to hide in case it helps clean up this pit.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION
You will no longer be able to participate in this discussion thread, and you will not be able to start a new discussion thread in this forum until 3:21 AM. This hidden post has been added to your <a href="/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans">Transparency page</a>.
IMPORTANT: Hidden posts remain on your Transparency Page for 90 days. If at any time your Transparency Page contains five or more hidden posts there are additional consequences: 1) your Transparency Page will be displayed and can be read by any logged-in member 2) you will be unable to post until there are fewer than five hidden posts remaining on your Transparency Page 3) if you are a forum or group Host and/or serving on the Malicious Intruder Removal Team (MIRT), you will lose those privileges
Mail Message
On Fri May 1, 2015, 02:09 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Look, I get it. You support Zimmerman. You support murder. (nt)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=166356
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This is a deliberate character smear. This poster must be aware of the definition of murder, and nothing in the post he cites advocates murder.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Fri May 1, 2015, 02:21 AM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Saying the poster supports murder is over the top.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: definitely over the top.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Not sure of what happens in this group...but voting to hide in case it helps clean up this pit.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION
You will no longer be able to participate in this discussion thread, and you will not be able to start a new discussion thread in this forum until 3:21 AM. This hidden post has been added to your <a href="/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans">Transparency page</a>.
IMPORTANT: Hidden posts remain on your Transparency Page for 90 days. If at any time your Transparency Page contains five or more hidden posts there are additional consequences: 1) your Transparency Page will be displayed and can be read by any logged-in member 2) you will be unable to post until there are fewer than five hidden posts remaining on your Transparency Page 3) if you are a forum or group Host and/or serving on the Malicious Intruder Removal Team (MIRT), you will lose those privileges
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: One of your posts has been hidden by a DU Jury
Mail Message
On Sat May 2, 2015, 06:46 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Unlike you, I am opposed to murder. You support murder.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=166418
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
call out to a DU member saying he supports murder when he clearly does not and has told this poster many times in multiple threads to stop with the lies. The poster continues to defame this DU member.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat May 2, 2015, 06:52 AM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: "You support murder." Nice.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: telling someone that they support murder is over the line
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Given the diary, and the statement about 'standing by his vote' (that Zimmerman did not murder Trayvon Martin'), and my belief that Zimmerman did, in fact, 'get away with murder', I can only take this as a factual statement, not a lie. In this specific instance, the DU member supported a murderer. As such, this is not a lie, and I see no reason to hide it.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disruptive and inappropriate personal attack.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION
You will no longer be able to participate in this discussion thread, and you will not be able to start a new discussion thread in this forum until 7:52 AM. This hidden post has been added to your <a href="/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans">Transparency page</a>.
IMPORTANT: Hidden posts remain on your Transparency Page for 90 days. If at any time your Transparency Page contains five or more hidden posts there are additional consequences: 1) your Transparency Page will be displayed and can be read by any logged-in member 2) you will be unable to post until there are fewer than five hidden posts remaining on your Transparency Page 3) if you are a forum or group Host and/or serving on the Malicious Intruder Removal Team (MIRT), you will lose those privileges
Mail Message
On Sat May 2, 2015, 06:46 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Unlike you, I am opposed to murder. You support murder.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=166418
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
call out to a DU member saying he supports murder when he clearly does not and has told this poster many times in multiple threads to stop with the lies. The poster continues to defame this DU member.
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat May 2, 2015, 06:52 AM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: "You support murder." Nice.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: telling someone that they support murder is over the line
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Given the diary, and the statement about 'standing by his vote' (that Zimmerman did not murder Trayvon Martin'), and my belief that Zimmerman did, in fact, 'get away with murder', I can only take this as a factual statement, not a lie. In this specific instance, the DU member supported a murderer. As such, this is not a lie, and I see no reason to hide it.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disruptive and inappropriate personal attack.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION
You will no longer be able to participate in this discussion thread, and you will not be able to start a new discussion thread in this forum until 7:52 AM. This hidden post has been added to your <a href="/?com=profile&uid=313825&sub=trans">Transparency page</a>.
IMPORTANT: Hidden posts remain on your Transparency Page for 90 days. If at any time your Transparency Page contains five or more hidden posts there are additional consequences: 1) your Transparency Page will be displayed and can be read by any logged-in member 2) you will be unable to post until there are fewer than five hidden posts remaining on your Transparency Page 3) if you are a forum or group Host and/or serving on the Malicious Intruder Removal Team (MIRT), you will lose those privileges
May 1, 2015
Zimmermann broke no current laws, acted reasonably and Florida laws relating to any of his actions need no changes
15 (48%)
Abnredleg, shedevil69taz, 840high, Lurks Often, mackdaddy, Surf Fishing Guru, blueridge3210, Big_Mike, Calista241, COLGATE4, Straw Man, mr_liberal, virginia mountainman, gejohnston, mog75
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172164331
But while Zimmerman got a lot of support for his murder in that DU poll, his name was left out of the title, which may have skewed the poll results somewhat, creating a false and misleading impression of what DU is all about.
So, I'll put the the question before the wider DU community:
Remember, to answer "yes" you need to agree with all 3 of the above clauses of support, not just 1 or 2 of them.
Do you support Zimmerman?
Would Zimmerman still get 48% DU support for murder if his name were in the title?
Recently, there was a poll of DUers regarding Zimmerman's murder.
In it, 48% of all DUers who responded supported by plurality all 3 of the following clauses:
(1) Zimmerman broke no laws.
(2) Zimmerman acted reasonably.
(3) Florida laws relating to any of his actions need no changes
Zimmermann broke no current laws, acted reasonably and Florida laws relating to any of his actions need no changes
15 (48%)
Abnredleg, shedevil69taz, 840high, Lurks Often, mackdaddy, Surf Fishing Guru, blueridge3210, Big_Mike, Calista241, COLGATE4, Straw Man, mr_liberal, virginia mountainman, gejohnston, mog75
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172164331
But while Zimmerman got a lot of support for his murder in that DU poll, his name was left out of the title, which may have skewed the poll results somewhat, creating a false and misleading impression of what DU is all about.
So, I'll put the the question before the wider DU community:
Remember, to answer "yes" you need to agree with all 3 of the above clauses of support, not just 1 or 2 of them.
Do you support Zimmerman?
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