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April 25, 2016

So what's a good one liner to respond...

... to people (I typed "idiots", but am trying to cultivate a habit of civility.... difficult in GDP). Anyway, to people who claim that Hillary can't be a good candidate "because she's richer than God." I'm just fine with the Clintons having reaped the rewards of being really famous people in this <senior moment... there's a good word here> celebrity crazed society. And I'm so impressed with the Clinton Foundation (sky high ratings from foundation raters), and with Hillary's willingness to put herself through the hell that is her campaign. I know it's because she cares, not for selfish reasons. I've watched her since Wellesley days. But all of this is definitely not a one liner.

Ideas?

tia
las

April 25, 2016

A word from my son, a Sanders supporter. (also posted in GDP)

My son, a Bernie supporter, has a vision of a Sanders caucus in the Democratic side of congress, one he swears would not be obstructionist like the Tea Party*. I, a Hillary supporter who affirms the ideas that Bernie holds out as goals, allowed as how that would be great, but we're missing candidates to vote into congress. To date Bernie has found only 3 to support (well, anyway, to date a few days ago). I agree with the poster that to keep Bernie's ideas alive his supporters need to make sure we get a Democratic president, take back the senate, and lay groundwork to take back the house.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

* He swears they would not be obstructionist because of the kinds of people he's met at Sanders rallies. I told him about the kinds of people that make a yuge racket on DU. I believed Sanders when he said he didn't want the steriotypical Bernie Bro in his campaign. Let's hope my son's experience is closer to the truth than mine.

April 25, 2016

Why would we want a law which required...

I was wrong. See post #63.



... the same minimum wage in Bethel, Maine, as in New York city? A good way to push small, rural towns too fast, or to limit big cities to the wages of rural America. That's the kind of reason I support Hillary. She THINKS. Twelve dollars an hour federal base line, with the more expensive locales urged to go to 15, as some have done already.

A lot of people responded that I was confusing minimum with maximum. Not so. I hope for a world where we all pay enough for our hamburgers that all the workers can support a family on a single paycheck. It seems clear that that is Hillary's desire too. I want the minimum wage to continue to go up. If we could manage a higher one, I'd be all for it.

Also, people read the phrase "limit big cities to the wages of rural America" as if I thought they couldn't pay more than the minimum. I see now that's how it can be read. What I meant, of course, was that workers whose employers pay the lowest possible rate would be limited to the wages of rural areas.

But I would stand by my point that it would be hurtful to pick a one-size fits all federal minimum.


The italics indicate a major edit.

April 24, 2016

How honest is Hillary? (Honester than anyone else, but what are the stats?) also in GDP

I read the post at the bottom of this post in DU today. Then I could swear I read another that had Clinton at 50+% true/mostly true and Sanders 49%. Now I've just read Kristof's column in the Sunday times and he says Clinton rates 95% true or mostly true with 46% for the next highest, Sanders, in PolitiFact. Can any one sort this out? It's clear that Hillary rates highest in truthfulness in all these reports (not a surprise to me), but I'd like to get clear about the stats.


Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents

PolitiFact has rated 24% of Hillary Clinton’s contentious claims as receiving a perfect “True” score (source link), which may not sound impressive until you consider that just 15% of Bernie Sanders’ contentious claims have rated out as “True” (source link). There are two other passable categories, “Mostly True” and “Half True.” If you add up the numbers from the top three boxes, Clinton comes out at 72% and Sanders comes out at 70%, which are both robust scores. In the bottom two boxes, just 14% of Clinton’s challenged statements have rated out as “False” or “Pants on Fire” while Sanders has fallen into those bottom two boxes 15% of the time.


http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/
April 24, 2016

How honest is Hillary? (Honester than anyone else, but what are the stats?)

I read the post at the bottom of this post in DU today. Then I could swear I read another that had Clinton at 50+% true/mostly true and Sanders 49%. Now I've just read Kristof's column in the Sunday times and he says Clinton rates 95% true or mostly true with 46% for the next highest, Sanders, in PolitiFact. Can any one sort this out? It's clear that Hillary rates highest in truthfulness in all these reports (not a surprise to me), but I'd like to get clear about the stats.


Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents

PolitiFact has rated 24% of Hillary Clinton’s contentious claims as receiving a perfect “True” score (source link), which may not sound impressive until you consider that just 15% of Bernie Sanders’ contentious claims have rated out as “True” (source link). There are two other passable categories, “Mostly True” and “Half True.” If you add up the numbers from the top three boxes, Clinton comes out at 72% and Sanders comes out at 70%, which are both robust scores. In the bottom two boxes, just 14% of Clinton’s challenged statements have rated out as “False” or “Pants on Fire” while Sanders has fallen into those bottom two boxes 15% of the time.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/
April 24, 2016

OK, so where are the tax returns?

For weeks I just figured the Sanders were ordinary people tax-wise, didn't think much about them, and didn't have their act together. But now, after the "announcement" of the release of the full 2014 returns, the "we haven't had time" response doesn't play. So now I'm wondering.... how come they haven't been released?

April 24, 2016

Why big crowds don’t equal big votes for Bernie Sanders

But we knew this, right?

Earlier this month, 15,000 people packed into New York’s Washington Square Park to hear US Senator Bernie Sanders. It was the largest rally for any candidate in the New York presidential primary — until 28,000 people came to hear Sanders in Prospect Park in Brooklyn a few days later. That was the biggest rally of Sanders presidential campaign.

On Tuesday, Sanders lost the New York primary to Hillary Clinton by 16 percentage points. Sanders not only lost Brooklyn, but he also lost the neighborhood where he grew up.




http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/04/21/why-big-crowds-don-equal-big-votes-for-bernie-sanders/uuKcKaVV10wJV5m88iiiDP/story.html?s_campaign=8315
April 24, 2016

Why big crowds don’t equal big votes for Bernie Sanders (also on GDP)

But we knew this, right?

Earlier this month, 15,000 people packed into New York’s Washington Square Park to hear US Senator Bernie Sanders. It was the largest rally for any candidate in the New York presidential primary — until 28,000 people came to hear Sanders in Prospect Park in Brooklyn a few days later. That was the biggest rally of Sanders presidential campaign.

On Tuesday, Sanders lost the New York primary to Hillary Clinton by 16 percentage points. Sanders not only lost Brooklyn, but he also lost the neighborhood where he grew up.



http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/04/21/why-big-crowds-don-equal-big-votes-for-bernie-sanders/uuKcKaVV10wJV5m88iiiDP/story.html?s_campaign=8315

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