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Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts) Mon May 7, 2018, 10:51 AM May 2018

Wypipo [View all]

There is a distinction to be made between a term being inoffensive, and a claim that certain people shouldn't find the term offensive.

The term is meant to refer to a group by skin color, and is therefore as offensive as any other term used to refer to any other group. Yes, it is. It's certainly not used as an honorific, or as a term of endearment, or in any way meant to confer any sort of dignity. It is therefore offensive, and any effort to separate it from other racial slurs is fatuous.

What people seem to mean by "inoffensive" in this regard seems to be "you haven't the RIGHT to be offended, because privilege." I guess that's a matter of opinion, which is fine. My opinion is that is bullshit.

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Wypipo [View all] Dreamer Tatum May 2018 OP

Agreed, why are white DU members suddenly under attack ? Why is this permissible on DU ? Trust Buster May 2018 #1

Because some people are bored with attacking Trump? TreasonousBastard May 2018 #2

What I find bewildering is the assurance that whiteness is a cure unto itself Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #3

I find it bewildering that you interpret "wypipo" as "whiteness is a cure unto itself". DanTex May 2018 #22

Then work to end it. Anon-C May 2018 #42

Because white people are not under attack on DU. boston bean May 2018 #4

Oh. Then I guess maybe it should be "Racistwypipo"? Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #6

no "wypipo" will suffice. boston bean May 2018 #7

Thanks for proving my point. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #10

Yep dumbcat May 2018 #16

you are proving mine. Thanks so much! boston bean May 2018 #18

For whom? procon May 2018 #39

I prefer to exclude myself from the company of racists and feel 100% correct they are the divisive boston bean May 2018 #50

You mean like saying Effie lacks the understanding of a preschooler? ehrnst May 2018 #105

Crickets. ehrnst May 2018 #131

I see that those among us who are so clearly masterful in their discourse and ehrnst May 2018 #132

What should black folks who are racist be called in your opinion ? Trust Buster May 2018 #9

Racism implies a position of power Lunabell May 2018 #48

Racism doesnt necessarily imply positions of power askyagerz May 2018 #54

Yes, it does EffieBlack May 2018 #55

No if you are blanketing because you hate that group askyagerz May 2018 #60

You don't understand the terminology you're using but saying it over and over EffieBlack May 2018 #63

Actually no. EX500rider May 2018 #66

I grew up with plenty of racists askyagerz May 2018 #80

None of us are likely to meet each other in the real world askyagerz May 2018 #75

I saw that movie Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #78

I wonder why you have the right to define this? wasupaloopa May 2018 #99

I'm not defining it EffieBlack May 2018 #107

It can be from ignorance, hate, superiority issues askyagerz May 2018 #124

Of course it does. Demsrule86 May 2018 #94

Indeed, and I thought this was common sense by now, guess not. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #77

Where is that written? Common sense the wasupaloopa May 2018 #100

If you do even a minimal amount of studying, beyond looking it up in the dictionary, EffieBlack May 2018 #108

A lot of things are written, and debated, and theorized. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #110

It certainly has more credibility than a bunch of people sitting around chatting about it on social EffieBlack May 2018 #125

The power plus stipulative definition of racism is not universally accepted. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #128

Vested interest some have in making sure black people can be racist too, when they cant. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #119

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #123

... Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #126

Are you making the argument that black people cannot be racist? That they are morally superior? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #79

Black people do not have the power to do to us what is being done to them with systematic racism... Demsrule86 May 2018 #95

You are stripping the individual of their autonomy. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #97

No, that's what racism does - that's the point EffieBlack May 2018 #109

You are making the claim that an individual cannot be racist. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #112

That is nonsense. Power is not meaningless in context with racism regardless of Demsrule86 May 2018 #134

It has nothing to do with moral superiority gollygee May 2018 #118

No racism does not.. But 'Discrimination' implies a position of power nini May 2018 #120

Racists. The same as Asians who are racist, Hispanics who are racist, etc. George II May 2018 #114

Not true, according to the instigator of this nonsense. lark May 2018 #56

since when does any other activism mean someone can't be a racist or bigoted... explain that first. boston bean May 2018 #91

Do racists march against drumpf? lark May 2018 #121

# 1 yes. # 2 they could be wypipo. boston bean May 2018 #122

White people are under attack? EffieBlack May 2018 #8

Disparaging a whole race of people is divisive and ignorant IMO. Trust Buster May 2018 #11

There we go with the "divisive" accusation again EffieBlack May 2018 #12

Very simple. I have a clear understanding of what DU's mission is. Promoting racially motivated Trust Buster May 2018 #13

Your concern is duly noted. /nt tonedevil May 2018 #14

That's not a definition. That's an assertion that you don't like it. EffieBlack May 2018 #15

Glad that you can put it in terms "simple enough" for Effie to understand. ehrnst May 2018 #103

Who is doing that? (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #102

This white person does not feel under attack xmas74 May 2018 #139

I'm a white DU member. I'm not even slightly under attack. DanTex May 2018 #21

Me either Lunabell May 2018 #51

Agree. Didn't even know what the expression meant until I just looked it up... deurbano May 2018 #65

Nor am I , I have however been very kindly and patiently asked to look Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #81

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #133

I'm a white, protestant (in background) middle aged male HopeAgain May 2018 #90

Agreed BlueDog22 May 2018 #140

Same here. xmas74 May 2018 #141

From what I can tell, there are no longer any meaningful rules Crunchy Frog May 2018 #24

BINGO !!!!!!!!! Trust Buster May 2018 #25

Bingo. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #86

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #29

I agree. Demit May 2018 #40

Weird how you can predict who will say what around here, isnt it! Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #82

This is a great example of white victimhood...seriously on DU? Wypipo is an abbreviation for Demsrule86 May 2018 #61

The main problem is that it's just a respelling of "white people" with a bunch of negatives... TCJ70 May 2018 #64

What negatives? I have seen none... Demsrule86 May 2018 #71

I don't think you know what the word means. TCJ70 May 2018 #73

You do understand this is a humor site and does not make your case as being insulting... Demsrule86 May 2018 #83

It is not an insult it is humor...actually. Demsrule86 May 2018 #92

One would think that what threatens us all would unite us, and we would not use our differences... hlthe2b May 2018 #5

Well, SOMEONE is trying to use our differences to divide us and I'm not convinced it's "US" groundloop May 2018 #49

DURec leftstreet May 2018 #17

I think the real outrage is that Black people dared to label a segment of the white population nini May 2018 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #26

How's the weather in Moscow? KatyMan May 2018 #32

It is a joke too...a humor site for heaven's sake. Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

Completely absurd. DanTex May 2018 #20

My logic is twisted? I didn't say it was as offensive as other words Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #27

Yes, you literally said "as offensive as any other term". Direct quote. Read the OP again. DanTex May 2018 #28

I did say that. My mistake. But I think I'll stick to it, in retrospect. Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #30

Thank you. I rest my case at "wypipo is as bad as the n-word". DanTex May 2018 #31

Is Wypipo the last thing thousands of white people have heard ehrnst May 2018 #101

The fact that you feel the need to use a euphemism for that word should tell you where it stands EffieBlack May 2018 #88

.... ehrnst May 2018 #104

Wow.. exactly. Cha May 2018 #129

... NurseJackie May 2018 #33

They're not ready for you DanTex. Anon-C May 2018 #44

It's a tough old world when one is white. LanternWaste May 2018 #23

I have so many stories to tell about the pain and suffering I have endured due to my white Demsrule86 May 2018 #89

Don't ever change, Dreamer Tatum. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #34

I assure you, I won't. Dreamer Tatum May 2018 #45

Why? WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C May 2018 #46

it is a good indicator on who i can freely disregard as a progressive person. Inkfreak May 2018 #35

What is wrong with Soxfan58 May 2018 #36

I LOL'd True Dough May 2018 #41

All pipo matter! sweetloukillbot May 2018 #113

Can you say double standard? YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #37

The fact you need to use a euphemism to describe what Black people are called ehrnst May 2018 #135

Double standard period YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #136

Not at all period ehrnst May 2018 #137

the term is so loosely designed that its vague boundaries are bound to cause Exotica May 2018 #38

You're very gifted E., 'cloudy, amorphous hipster-net-speak neologism'! appalachiablue May 2018 #74

thank you for the compliment Exotica May 2018 #93

BINGO! Post of the month. BlueWI May 2018 #138

Let's keep it real. The reason that White people are sometimes criticized is walkingman May 2018 #43

::sigh:: I miss being a honky. n/t TygrBright May 2018 #47

"fatuous" betsuni May 2018 #52

The main problem is that it's just a respelling of "white people" with a bunch of negatives... TCJ70 May 2018 #57

... LexVegas May 2018 #58

The term's actual definition mercuryblues May 2018 #59

The problem is the word is literally just "white people" spelled differently TCJ70 May 2018 #62

So what. mercuryblues May 2018 #69

You don't have a problem with a descriptor of an entire race being redefined into a negative? TCJ70 May 2018 #70

You keep insisting that it is a descriptor of an mercuryblues May 2018 #84

White people is a descriptor of an entire race. TCJ70 May 2018 #96

The author is very clear mercuryblues May 2018 #116

This is not an issue to me. I really don't care about derogatory slang for white people. Tobin S. May 2018 #67

My two cents angrychair May 2018 #68

"some move on and some do not. Some quit and some take a break." progressoid May 2018 #115

"The term is meant to refer to a group by skin color ..." left-of-center2012 May 2018 #72

Your logic seems a bit off. kwassa May 2018 #76

This is one of those things on DU that takes on a life it's own. wasupaloopa May 2018 #87

Identity politics and collective guilt do not win elections PatentlyDemocratic May 2018 #98

Trump won using white people's racial anxiety- their bigotry and sexism were normalized. bettyellen May 2018 #106

If you're white and can't handle the phrase wypipo SpicyBoi May 2018 #111

I remember when the term was "honky" treestar May 2018 #117

It always humors me when DU gets into these battles mokawanis May 2018 #127

Seriously ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #130

I just play the game of "Who's the real racist here?" wonkwest May 2018 #142

My opinion BlueDog22 May 2018 #143