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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
74. Interesting observation. I think this issue touches his Crazy Place.
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 12:04 PM
Aug 2012

After watching Rachel's piece last night, where she pointed out that he's not only consistently refused to show his tax returns, but has done so while just as consistently demanding everyone else's, including their spouses', I think this income tax thing is a very special obsession of his.

My SO observed that Romney is not a rich guy who just lets accountants handle everything. All these tax shelters and funky business structures offshore are not something that every single rich person does. Many, sure, but this is elaborate. It's a pet project. He is OBSESSED with his income taxes and specifically, trying not to pay them. He doesn't have to "check" for ABC or anyone else. He knows, to the penny, what he's paid. And I think this claim of a $200 million fortune is far short of what he's holding.

And there's something more. That scary, detached glint in his eye. He's got it a lot, to different degrees, whenever "those people" are asking him questions, but when it comes to this tax issue, he is ENRAGED.

There is a plunging dagger behind his eyes, barely restrained from ripping the throat out of anyone daring to "go there."

I had thought before Romney was just kind of an entitled empty suit. But as these little details of his personality have emerged, all of which entail cruelty, I think he's actually a nasty scary piece of work. I think his family is afraid of him. Ha, ha, Daddy shoved your face in butter, but don't think you can do that do Daddy. No one messes with Daddy.

Don't know how it's going to turn out, but I think this is a guy with a serious mask on, and he could do anything if cornered.



It was a virtual admission that he'd not paid income tax in some years... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #1
I hope someone in the media picks up on the carefully selected phrasing in his denial. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #4
Someone just did pscot Aug 2012 #37
I'm an old guy, I still forget that. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #50
I think he'll get what's coming... tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #53
Unlike Nixon, Romney's Checkers is Seamus and I doubt he would be a witness coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #2
I thought so too and also noticed McCain not sticking up for him K8-EEE Aug 2012 #3
Very interesting observation, K8-EE David Zephyr Aug 2012 #9
This is the same dodge the "elites" use to suggest that Tax cuts on the first $200,000 is not Vincardog Aug 2012 #5
Are we sure that he actually had an income most of those years? XemaSab Aug 2012 #6
He must have had treestar Aug 2012 #17
You raise an interesting point aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #19
There is no factual basis for anyone to believe that capital gains is not income. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #30
Well said. It is indeed income. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #32
He had an income as the governor of Mass unless he declined it. beyurslf Aug 2012 #23
I think I heard he did decline his income from being Governor siligut Aug 2012 #26
AFAIK he received income from the Olympics in addition to his Bain income. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #55
compared to what? heaven05 Aug 2012 #70
I know Mitt is treacherous siligut Aug 2012 #72
yeah heaven05 Aug 2012 #75
He's probably never had what the IRS calls "ordinary income" jmowreader Aug 2012 #38
actually he has on occasion had some "earned income" magical thyme Aug 2012 #45
. XemaSab Aug 2012 #49
He had an income brush Aug 2012 #66
Good catch Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #7
It's indeed getting very interesting. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #35
I caught that too... JHB Aug 2012 #8
ewww.. burning mental picture right now. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #15
We all noticed. aquart Aug 2012 #10
Willard rocks the "Fuzzy Math" with the best of them tridim Aug 2012 #11
LOL Bozvotros Aug 2012 #31
Good catch DZ ! kentuck Aug 2012 #12
Thanks, kentuck. I hope someone in the press grills him on the omission. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #51
Should it be wordsmithing? LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #56
I wonder how much in property taxes he pays on all his mansions aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #13
True! And it's not tax he should whine about treestar Aug 2012 #18
And the property tax on rental properties is paid in the rent. The landlord JDPriestly Aug 2012 #25
Good point. He said "Harry needs to put up or shut up" Maraya1969 Aug 2012 #14
Maraya1969, you have it. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #52
Excellent point n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #16
FICA, property taxes... cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #20
Absolutely right. Some lawyer wrote the statement!!! JDPriestly Aug 2012 #21
If he's paid no INCOME tax because he's HAD NO INCOME, that's all he has to say. rocktivity Aug 2012 #33
That creates a problem for Romney jmowreader Aug 2012 #40
IMO we need to hit Rmoney on how much of his income is exempt from taxes. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #57
This is a very good point reflection Aug 2012 #82
He wouldn't have paid income taxes.... citizen blues Aug 2012 #22
interesting--and welcome to DU! renate Aug 2012 #29
Under IRC §61(a)(7), dividends are included in gross income. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #34
Yep. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #36
My mistake. Thanks for correcting that. citizen blues Aug 2012 #46
"paid far more in taxes on my $42k salary" You probably paid more than the corporations AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #47
Exactly!!!! JDPriestly Aug 2012 #85
i heard that on the way home from work barbtries Aug 2012 #24
Exactly. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #59
It's Capital Gains! elleng Aug 2012 #27
In 1921, the Supreme Court made it clear that capital gains are subject to taxation as income. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #39
There's a corresponding tax protestor argument out there jmowreader Aug 2012 #41
IMO, the tax protestors, like the teabaggers, are the strangest people ever. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #43
Probably as strange as the ones that think loans should be forgiven after 7 years. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #58
Interesting concept quaker bill Aug 2012 #62
There's a statute of limitations in the Bible? Who knew? Certainly not the banksters. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #69
If I rebut anyone on this it would be to point out that it only applied to the Israelites. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #73
Loopholes. Always loopholes. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77
yep, Mitt is the master of loopholes Enrique Aug 2012 #28
So ironic that the upcoming historic battle over concentration of wealth through biased legislation wiggs Aug 2012 #42
Its too bad that the upcoming historic battle is not going to be about job-transferring "free-trade" AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #44
It is in the sidecar quaker bill Aug 2012 #63
It is in the sidecar? One of the candidates is opposed to job-transferring "free-trade" agreements? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #67
It would have been VERY easy to be unambiguous. bleever Aug 2012 #48
Quite an effort, too, huh, bleever. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #60
SLICK WILLARD grasswire Aug 2012 #54
I just read something about UBITs which apply to IRA and family trust money demgrrrll Aug 2012 #61
he can't pay income taxes technically he is unemployed Heather MC Aug 2012 #64
What Is Not Said Often Says More DallasNE Aug 2012 #65
Especially with this cold, calculating politician. David Zephyr Aug 2012 #79
There is a box on the average 1040 that bonniebgood Aug 2012 #68
Will we ever get the chance to see what a complete liar we're dealing with here? flamingdem Aug 2012 #71
Interesting observation. I think this issue touches his Crazy Place. DirkGently Aug 2012 #74
"He knows, to the penny, what he's paid." David Zephyr Aug 2012 #81
Yeppers. Less than one second after I read Romney's retort I thought, "Sure, sales taxes!" Ian_rd Aug 2012 #76
"... I have paid taxes every year. xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #78
Sales tax really adds up Blue Gardener Aug 2012 #80
I noticed the phrasing too. existentialist Aug 2012 #83
He's baiting Obama. Obama is not buying it. applegrove Aug 2012 #84
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