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BlueJac

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182. Telling people to STFU...

Fri Jun 29, 2018, 10:02 AM

Jun 2018

is not what this site is about. Good for anyone that has the ways and means to move somewhere else. My wife is Canadian and we have that option, even though her head spins on all of Trumps statements, we are not moving. It has been a sad experience since the election but I have some hope for this country. We have been on a course of division for quite some time now, and we are in for big fight coming up!! Help everyone vote and get rid of this SPEWING MINDLESS ASSHOLE and his enablers.

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This will likely piss off a few of you. [View all] Atticus Jun 2018 OP

I think that most that consider it will, after doing research, be surprised... ret5hd Jun 2018 #1

Truthfully, other countries don't want us. leftofcool Jun 2018 #76

Panama would be a definite consideration if I could afford it. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #178

unless they have sufficient means, or a relative that will sponsper them, most will find it still_one Jun 2018 #96

What if a company hires you? Beartracks Jun 2018 #99

Sure, if you have a company sponser, but that is filtered demographic with a specific skill set still_one Jun 2018 #100

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #111

Can't argue with that...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #2

I hope it gets bad enough all the GOP assholes move Generic Other Jun 2018 #3

Move where? awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #11

I was thinking of the elite ones Generic Other Jun 2018 #14

Trouble is wryter2000 Jun 2018 #72

It makes no sense Generic Other Jun 2018 #79

What will their take be when it's fellow US citizens who are the immigrants? CrispyQ Jun 2018 #22

We may not be a "melting pot" everywhere awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #28

Absolutely Southern California, and before long to be all of America. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #46

I agree awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #71

Yes, millennials have a global perspective radius777 Jun 2018 #130

We have this wonderful mix in St. Louis City (in Missouri) too. From Bosnia, Vietnam, ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #57

Possible even in the south. lark Jun 2018 #82

Good posts in this thread, awesomerwb1! True Dough Jun 2018 #84

An asshole right-winger (but I'm repeating myself) whom I unfortunately know, klook Jun 2018 #133

I think those bdamomma Jun 2018 #44

They have insulated themselves from the consequences of their treason. Orsino Jul 2018 #191

We need to scrap the whole concept of patriotism. It's been completely parasitized. ck4829 Jun 2018 #4

me too. barbtries Jun 2018 #8

I agree with you. Mariana Jun 2018 #21

Just like an abusive relationship elmac Jun 2018 #63

For me patriotism exists only on the football pitch. Codeine Jun 2018 #139

Patriotism is dumb shellyleit Jun 2018 #144

Applause! FSogol Jun 2018 #5

I disagree. We all make decisions that are geared toward making our lives more enjoyable. wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #6

Although I understand the emotions, a lot of things people threaten here crack me up and suck bigly. Hoyt Jun 2018 #7

No G_j Jun 2018 #9

I can't afford to leave other. I would if I could LeftInTX Jun 2018 #32

Me too! It's embarrassing how far this country has fallen! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #179

"I'll kindly ask that you not tell me to STFU!" LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #54

Thank you Wwcd Jun 2018 #80

yes. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #90

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #91

+1 SergeStorms Jun 2018 #151

The nastiness of some here is unreal... what have we become?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #181

moreover, the damage that Putin's mobster oligarchs will inflict will be on a global scale anarch Jun 2018 #10

Eventually, the rest of the world will put the GOP back in their box. The world is getting RKP5637 Jun 2018 #16

Here here. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #41

Really? bentornilloed Jun 2018 #102

Yes. US is progressive liberal nation if remove gerrymandering, dirty tricks, & voter suppression. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #156

Even with gerrymandering, dirty tricks, & voter suppression, this progressive poll suggest otherwise bentornilloed Jun 2018 #185

That's 9 years old. Doesn't square with other polling I've seen. For example, 67% non-conservative Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #186

I think most people don't really mean it. madaboutharry Jun 2018 #12

madaboutharry, Very well stated.... Upthevibe Jun 2018 #40

Good post. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #42

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #50

+1. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2018 #121

Some people will be doing it because they'll die otherwise. So yeah, fuck 'em, right? Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #13

Exactly right. Many families I know are LGBT &/or disabled &/or POC Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #159

Well, you're overlooking the real monkey wrench... eallen Jun 2018 #15

I've always thought the US would divide into different regions. There are just too many RKP5637 Jun 2018 #20

So, the cities in one "region" and rural areas in another? shanny Jun 2018 #33

I was thinking of this in terms of long term, spanning decades, and perhaps a restructuring of RKP5637 Jun 2018 #48

I agree that we are likely to have a restructuring of government after this. shanny Jun 2018 #61

Despartely need a constitutional convention and national referendums to address things such as Pepsidog Jun 2018 #74

Republicans are pretty close to the numbers they need for a con con so they are on it lunasun Jun 2018 #127

That's scary Pepsidog Jun 2018 #132

RKP5637.... Upthevibe Jun 2018 #49

that is Putin's wish bdamomma Jun 2018 #53

This will likely piss off a few of you. Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #17

Well done. shanny Jun 2018 #34

somewhat equivalent but things are a lot worse in Guatemala treestar Jun 2018 #39

The level of "a lot worse" is very subjective Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #43

Still - I don't think it is privilege treestar Jun 2018 #95

Uh huh, yup, that's the same situation fersure! Atticus Jun 2018 #119

This will likely piss off a few of you. Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #18

Besides, it's really too late for that. WhiteTara Jun 2018 #19

There never really were any safe places. Mariana Jun 2018 #24

I know Mariana WhiteTara Jun 2018 #25

Amen! Fight or shut up! It's the patriotic thing to do! Initech Jun 2018 #23

I totally disagree Saboburns Jun 2018 #26

Have you thought of moving? SMC22307 Jun 2018 #112

Come here! Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #169

Leaving is discussed often between my sister and I. Corvo Bianco Jun 2018 #27

Can't blame people wanting to kacekwl Jun 2018 #29

The other day I mentioned how it has privilege written all over it. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #30

And I see privilege over the "Oh well... we'll just vote but that's it" ideology as well ck4829 Jun 2018 #47

"seems to me like there are too many people who don't actually want to do work politically" NCTraveler Jun 2018 #62

I say to each his/her own.. Cha Jun 2018 #31

I think it will come down to moving to a Blue State HAB911 Jun 2018 #35

So I have a patriotic duty Jake Stern Jun 2018 #36

Listen up please. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #37

Meh! I can't afford to leave either. Finding an extra $400 would be difficult for me too. BUT... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #38

Great reply Exotica Jun 2018 #166

I can understand how people feel LeftInTX Jun 2018 #45

I'm in favor of discussing anything. It's what we're proud of being able to do. And nolabear Jun 2018 #51

Only straight, white, Christian men are safe in this country, anymore. Coventina Jun 2018 #52

Trump wants to deport me for being brown IronLionZion Jun 2018 #55

Emigrating? bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #56

Costa Rica elmac Jun 2018 #58

Czech Republic Berlin Expat Jun 2018 #70

Yep voteearlyvoteoften Jun 2018 #59

Hell, I feel like i'm in another country when I just leave California. Mr.Bill Jun 2018 #60

I'm still considering swimming across Lake Ontario or Lake Erie to the promised land! democratisphere Jun 2018 #64

Can't you just drive across either the Rainbow or Peace Bridge? dflprincess Jun 2018 #162

I think about it all the time Clarity2 Jun 2018 #65

Telling scared people to stfu is wrong. Accusing frightened people of frivolously uppityperson Jun 2018 #66

+ 1 Clarity2 Jun 2018 #67

Seriously, no other country would want me Freddie Jun 2018 #68

I agree Trueblue Texan Jun 2018 #69

I'm not planning on moving, I'm planning on dying. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #73

I signed up and fought for our country so,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2018 #75

Hey Atticus thewhollytoast Jun 2018 #77

My response to this crap to work as hard as possible to turn Texas blue Gothmog Jun 2018 #78

I do not see the ones wanting out as being elitist or unpatriotic. Doreen Jun 2018 #81

I agree workinclasszero Jun 2018 #83

Their side fights harder than ours qazplm135 Jun 2018 #85

What's happening now is hardly "the first setback or negative result". nt. Mariana Jun 2018 #124

I wonder if Jews in 1937 Germany heard the same message mainer Jun 2018 #86

Do you really think, say Canada, is going to let the poor and lower middle class from America workinclasszero Jun 2018 #92

When the house catches on fire, opinions will vary on how soon to evacuate. n/t Orsino Jun 2018 #87

Evacuate? You should stay in the house and fight the fire! nt. Mariana Jun 2018 #135

Until the point at which safety means evacuation. Orsino Jun 2018 #171

I'm sorry, that's a bad analogy stopwastingmymoney Jun 2018 #183

And if you've got loved ones who are more vulnerable... Orsino Jul 2018 #188

I disagree. It's okay .... Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #88

Mexico is inexpensive and we can walk to it, any American can afford to immigrate there. braddy Jun 2018 #89

The drug cartel is very dangerous there. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #93

3 kids & 7 grandkids. I'll be sticking around. dameatball Jun 2018 #94

Personally, I have family that I love and care about. How unconscionably selfish and heartless YOHABLO Jun 2018 #97

I agree Rebl2 Jun 2018 #98

Hmmm. If you had a time machine and could go back to Germany in 1934, PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #101

I tend not to bring it up except in posts attacking people who move overseas. meadowlander Jun 2018 #103

Thank you! G_j Jun 2018 #109

I agree moose966 Jun 2018 #104

I understand the anger heaven05 Jun 2018 #105

Thank you. N/t NNadir Jun 2018 #106

Spoken like a straight white male probably Christian. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #107

And this means what? MicaelS Jun 2018 #131

Sorry---that is just too messed up to merit a meaningful response. nt Atticus Jun 2018 #134

Would you have said that.. cannabis_flower Jun 2018 #108

Personally know of a Jewish family who left early for China &survived . For some of us it eventually lunasun Jun 2018 #125

It's arrogance. For some reason, Americans think they can move anywhere. EllieBC Jun 2018 #110

Thanks for the reality lesson workinclasszero Jun 2018 #129

Fantastic post. Thank you. MicaelS Jun 2018 #113

I was planning to go to Mars. Nt BootinUp Jun 2018 #114

I kind of agree TNLib Jun 2018 #115

We are taught as children that this is the greatest country in the world iwillalwayswonderwhy Jun 2018 #116

You really have no right to stand in judgement lunatica Jun 2018 #117

Any time we express an opinion about a post or a poster, we are Atticus Jun 2018 #128

Yes. I am judging you lunatica Jun 2018 #137

You chose an appropriate moniker. nt Atticus Jun 2018 #143

You fail in your intended insult lunatica Jun 2018 #146

Sorry we are at odds. These are stressful times. Tomorrow will be a new day. I will try to Atticus Jun 2018 #147

I get what you are saying. But I have a Gay daughter who will be endangered with Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #118

I am gay. I have no worries or plans for sneaking across any borders lol. Tipperary Jun 2018 #120

Gorsuch is in the mode of Scalia who always wanted to continue with a law against Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #123

Most people have no clue how difficult it is to emigrate to another country. Tipperary Jun 2018 #122

I'm a dual citizen. My other citizenship: the UK! VMA131Marine Jun 2018 #126

Agree with you, Atticus SCantiGOP Jun 2018 #136

To add to this IndianaKev Jun 2018 #138

Huh? NT Atticus Jun 2018 #141

I love America... shellyleit Jun 2018 #140

I believe that in today's billh58 Jun 2018 #142

Yeah, you are probably right: "All is lost! No use to fight. No use to resist. Hell, Atticus Jun 2018 #145

More like self-fulfilling billh58 Jun 2018 #174

So, if we vote, no other objections or opposition is necessary? No need Atticus Jun 2018 #184

Again, you are putting words in billh58 Jun 2018 #187

The Countries I looked Into NewEnglandAutumn Jun 2018 #148

I am sorry to hear that mnhtnbb Jun 2018 #150

Or you could use the ignore button. mnhtnbb Jun 2018 #149

First, I have never used the "ignore" button as I don't think THAT is "democratic". Atticus Jun 2018 #152

as a humanist Kurt V. Jun 2018 #153

Great, your choice not to use the button just mnhtnbb Jun 2018 #157

I really hope I'll have that option if it comes to it, but ecstatic Jun 2018 #154

Doesn't piss me off in the slightest. warmfeet Jun 2018 #155

Rachel just said it very well - "your country needs you too". Enoki33 Jun 2018 #158

Hear Hear iamthebandfanman Jun 2018 #160

It took me a while to think how to respond to this, as I "left" a long time ago DFW Jun 2018 #161

Aww poor you, I didn't ask to be born in this country. a la izquierda Jun 2018 #163

I had a moment... Olafjoy Jun 2018 #164

You lost me instantly with your patriot claptrap and your 'STFU' arrogant bark Exotica Jun 2018 #165

Does this only apply... Thyla Jun 2018 #167

Seriously GeorgeGist Jun 2018 #168

Good thing your ancestors didn't listen to you Boomer Jun 2018 #170

Of course you have the right to leave... brooklynite Jul 2018 #189

I'm Leaving Whether You like it or Not louis c Jun 2018 #172

We're leaving. Doesn't mean we won't continue to vote. But we're leaving. GoneOffShore Jun 2018 #173

The 'love it or leave it' shtick was idiocy then as it is now. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #175

+1000. I'm not leaving, but I don't I feel I have a country anymore. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #176

L-O-fucking-L at "unpatriotic aspect" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2018 #177

I have no intention of shutting up. Quite the contrary. MrModerate Jun 2018 #180

Telling people to STFU... BlueJac Jun 2018 #182

some have wondered about central america for years dembotoz Jul 2018 #190

And in other countries, it's always something else. betsuni Jul 2018 #192