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Mc Mike

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67. Agreed. Foreign nationals contributed a thing of value.

Reply to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 08:52 AM

Jul 2018

Twitler and his people received a thing of value.

They conspired to commit this illegal activity, and conspired to pay off the foreigners with sanctions elimination, settling the Previzon case, giving the russians syria and crimea. Quid pro quo.

I remember when 'citizen journalist' Pimpy O'Keefe tried to create a sting operation, during the '16 campaign, to catch a low level Hillary Clinton campaign worker selling a Clinton for Prez t-shirt to a Canadian. His operation failed, like usual, but it would have been earthshaking if the Clinton campaign made $5 from a foreign national, according to the repugs.

Rudy always starts lisping, sounds like his mouth if full of shit, when he knows he's trying to pull off an especially outrageous lie.

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"President's lawyer confirms he colluded with Russia, claims only the hacking was a crime." [View all] kpete Jul 2018 OP

Now that's a nice way to start my day. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #1

Interesting semantics, if I read that right... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #2

YES. I noticed that too. janx Jul 2018 #8

Sure they do... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #10

First there was no meeting....... shraby Jul 2018 #3

That's how gaslighting works... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #11

Saw no evil, heard no evil, said no evil...was Cohen's original defence when at the criminal Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #15

Seth Abramson convincingly argues that Trump attended by speakerphone, as tblue37 Jul 2018 #18

That wouldn't surprise me. calimary Jul 2018 #58

That and seeing the term "whataboutism" showing up everywhere Salviati Jul 2018 #62

yet we already know barbtries Jul 2018 #53

Iknowright?! roscoeroscoe Jul 2018 #55

That man has to be the absolute dumbest man to ever obtain a law license. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #4

He is also one of the ugliest... GetRidOfThem Jul 2018 #19

Skeletor reborn.... lastlib Jul 2018 #66

For GAWD's sake don't talk about the obstruction... Hugin Jul 2018 #5

it's not a crime to talk to russians or to get political dirt from them. unblock Jul 2018 #6

Further, a quid pro quo involving lifting sanctions is a crime too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #17

correct unblock Jul 2018 #20

If Team Trump used the scandalous information obtained from Russia NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #24

using "dirt" is a crime if the "dirt" is actually contraband. unblock Jul 2018 #36

It is most assuredly a crime to get "dirt" from the Russians-it's a thing of value Dread Pirate Roberts Jul 2018 #34

well here's the debatable point -- unblock Jul 2018 #40

Agreed. Foreign nationals contributed a thing of value. Mc Mike Jul 2018 #67

But since trumps entire M O seems to be 'how much money can I make while presidentin?', Volaris Jul 2018 #68

1. I didn't do it. ehrnst Jul 2018 #7

+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #9

He's not saying Trump did not know abt 2016 Russia mtg in advance. He's saying Trump did not ATTEND 2naSalit Jul 2018 #12

The crime is conspiracy. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #13

Mueller gets a side of collusion with his Monday morning breakfast. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #14

This is about Stage 4 of fighting a retreating battle. Stage 5 is Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #16

Court: Motion to Dismiss Conspiracy to Defraud the United States for Failure to State a Claim DENIED Stallion Jul 2018 #21

So the plan is Rudy emerges from obscurity every 2 weeks to move the goal posts bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #22

Remind me never to hire Giuliani to defend me if I'm ever charged with a crime. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #23

"I have the best gaslighting!" KPN Jul 2018 #25

Giullani marieo1 Jul 2018 #26

So how long before the " Yes collusion. Yes collusion. Smart. No crime." tweets? Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #27

Sometimes honesty is just a simple mistake. dchill Jul 2018 #28

When drumph said "Russia if you're listening" he knew they were and had already hacked info. BSdetect Jul 2018 #29

I believe the Constitution has a thing or two to say about Treason. k&r, nt appal_jack Jul 2018 #30

Another day, another absurdity peggysue2 Jul 2018 #31

Giuliani is the attorney Trump deserves. TNNurse Jul 2018 #32

+1 sandensea Jul 2018 #46

Collusion is treason Perseus Jul 2018 #33

collusion in this case is a straightforward campaign finance violation and much, much more elmac Jul 2018 #35

The fascist is just recycling old goptv garbage. elmac Jul 2018 #41

This does bring a smile to my face. PubliusEnigma Jul 2018 #37

Title of Rudy's memoirs: Witness for the Prosecution CanonRay Jul 2018 #38

By pointing out that collusion isn't the term used in the criminal statutes, Rudy just RockRaven Jul 2018 #39

conspiracy against the United States anarch Jul 2018 #42

ghouliani has been just phoning it in. Javaman Jul 2018 #43

If he was involved in something illegal like hacking then he is a co conspirator to the crime. cstanleytech Jul 2018 #44

It's all they've got left at this point except the final hopeful ace-in-the hole: KPN Jul 2018 #45

Does collusion conspiracy leanforward Jul 2018 #47

Collusion greymattermom Jul 2018 #48

With friends like these... sandensea Jul 2018 #49

If he knew about the meeting but purposely didn't attend it...that means he knew it was illegal Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #50

just another little hop, skip and a jump barbtries Jul 2018 #51

If I didn't know better True_Blue Jul 2018 #52

Rudy's talking out of his ass... kentuck Jul 2018 #54

New revelations all the time...Feels like Watergate, Stinks like Watergate, will it end the same? Stuart G Jul 2018 #56

This worked great for Nixon caraher Jul 2018 #57

He's all but admitting that Trump colluded and did know about the collusion meeting! OMG. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #59

CONSPIRACY to commit a crime is a crime. Is "collusion" somehow not "conspiracy"? McCamy Taylor Jul 2018 #60

Colbert just played that clip. edbermac Jul 2018 #61

Honey, I didn't have sex with your best friend. Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #63

Typical GOP tactic: trying to confuse the public into thinking laws are silly. C Moon Jul 2018 #64

"HE didn't hack them...He didn't pay them for hacking" - This is what Rudy said, and it struck me as OnDoutside Jul 2018 #65

giuliani is out of his fucking mind. spanone Jul 2018 #69