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Hassin Bin Sober

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Tue Oct 2, 2018, 04:53 PM Oct 2018

Bernie Sanders Grabbed the Bully Pulpit and Refused to Let Go Until Amazon Hiked Wages [View all]






Bernie Sanders Grabbed the Bully Pulpit and Refused to Let Go Until Amazon Hiked Wages

The senator’s crusade to improve conditions at the online retailer demanded accountability from Jeff Bezos and the billionaire class.
By John Nichols



https://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-grabbed-the-bully-pulpit-and-refused-to-let-go-until-amazon-hiked-wages/

The most underestimated tool that a prominent political figure has in times of divided and dysfunctional governance is the bully pulpit. It can be used for good and ill. Donald Trump is, literally, a bully. But Theodore Roosevelt did not intend a sinister meaning when he coined the term. Roosevelt was of the “bully for you”—as in “great for you”—school. A bully pulpit was, to his view, the most excellent platform for popularizing proposals for necessary reforms.

A Republican with an inclination toward progressivism, Roosevelt knew in his time that the corridors of power were packed with corrupted men, and that “Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit.” Reformers had to employ the bully pulpit because, the 26th president explained, “The absence of effective state, and, especially, national, restraint upon unfair money-getting has tended to create a small class of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men, whose chief object is to hold and increase their power. The prime need is to change the conditions which enable these men to accumulate power which is not for the general welfare.”

The cause of fair wages and fair treatment has always required the rallying of public sentiment on the side of workers. Roosevelt employed the bully pulpit for this purpose in his time. And Bernie Sanders does the same today.

For the past several months, the senator from Vermont has been on a mission to get Jeff Bezos to raise wages for Amazon workers. In July, Sanders held a “CEOs vs. Workers” town-hall meeting, in which he amplified the voices of Amazon employees and declared that: “A significant percentage of workers who work at Amazon [are] working for wages so low they are also dependent upon government programs. But that is only half the story because a lot of people who work for Amazon don’t actually work for Amazon because they are independent contractors.”
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It is amazing some have expressed cynicism that this is only a ploy on their path to automation, or still_one Oct 2018 #1
+1 mountain grammy Oct 2018 #23
Step in the right direction only after refusal to unite for $15/hour Hortensis Oct 2018 #100
And people on here complained..... vi5 Oct 2018 #2
Bernie is mean to the Job Creators!!!!! QC Oct 2018 #5
Yep. He's mean to Amazon like trump is mean to Amazon!!! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #6
They're meanies!!!! n/t QC Oct 2018 #9
And yet he's still making money by selling his books, t-shirts, and other paraphernalia on Amazon... George II Oct 2018 #50
But yeah, I'm sure that if all the sensible Dems had asked him nicely at fundraisers.... vi5 Oct 2018 #12
Okay it's all because of Bernie Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #3
Amazon Warehouse's are outside Seattle. bahrbearian Oct 2018 #7
Let's not let facts, geography and maps confuse the sour grapes. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #11
Sour grapes? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #18
Bernie Sanders has received donations from more Amazon workers than Barack Obama over the past 14 ye JonLP24 Oct 2018 #21
So? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #24
Well Amazon hires in Arizona and the state doesn't have a $15 per hour wage JonLP24 Oct 2018 #26
And They Have Massive Distribution Center's in California & Nevada Ccarmona Oct 2018 #28
He's also received thousands of dollars in royalties/commissions for books, coffee cups, t-shirts... George II Oct 2018 #67
So? Amazon is unfortunately barely a choice. Its an institution. Its damn near a utility. JCanete Oct 2018 #84
He can very simply withdraw his books from Amazon. That's not a "boycott", that's deciding.... George II Oct 2018 #87
that's an absurd argument. I don't think any company has the reach amazon does when it comes to JCanete Oct 2018 #89
I didn't say there are only four Barnes and Nobles within ten miles of me, George II Oct 2018 #91
Edit(and sorry): I think it is a pefect analogy. There is no practical alternative to using Amazon, JCanete Oct 2018 #93
"swaths of the public that solely get their books via online retailers"? Is that documentable? George II Oct 2018 #97
Al Gore does not use planes as the business entity through which he markets, sells, and distributes lapucelle Oct 2018 #107
Bazinga! George II Oct 2018 #108
He can very simply withdraw his books from Amazon. That's not a "boycott", that's deciding.... George II Oct 2018 #88
The past 14 years, eh? namahage Oct 2018 #98
What firsthand experience is that? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #27
His point was regardless of where they are physically. Blue_true Oct 2018 #38
What does the statutory minimum wage in Seattle have to do with locations outside Seattle? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #40
Did I write anything about Seattle wages? Blue_true Oct 2018 #41
Aside from Seattle, NYS has a strong minimum wage law that went into effect almost two years ago.... George II Oct 2018 #46
BWHW bahrbearian Oct 2018 #49
Yep! And we wouldn't be in this mess. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #83
At least you weren't called "bitter", which is a common theme. George II Oct 2018 #58
Those who work at the Seattle facility telecommute? George II Oct 2018 #45
There are no more Fulfillment centers in Seattle, they moved them out to Sumner. bahrbearian Oct 2018 #48
Amazon does still have employees within Seattle, and they also have thousands in NYS.... George II Oct 2018 #54
The workers in Seattle are office workers, not the strenuous warehouse work. bahrbearian Oct 2018 #61
Not defending Amazon, just presenting an objective rationale regarding their decision to raise.... George II Oct 2018 #63
Deleted - duplicate of #63 George II Oct 2018 #64
Yeah, a quick Google shows them in Seattle, or R B Garr Oct 2018 #30
The SDC center has been closed. bahrbearian Oct 2018 #47
lol, so they didn't lower wages from $15 when they moved R B Garr Oct 2018 #53
The worship of Amazon here is more than Amazing it's perplexing. bahrbearian Oct 2018 #62
I haven't seen worship of Amazon. Mostly a discussion about Bernie's books R B Garr Oct 2018 #71
That's the way it looked to me. Go Bernie! nt earthshine Oct 2018 #4
Sure Jan... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #8
In the meantime, Vermont minimum wage is just over $10, but no R B Garr Oct 2018 #13
Could it be that no one asks melman Oct 2018 #15
LOL! R B Garr Oct 2018 #25
Ok, then why doesn't Bernie give that governor hell? Blue_true Oct 2018 #39
maybe it's different in his state. they have the same constituents. JI7 Oct 2018 #42
LOL, such incisive reasoning. Blue_true Oct 2018 #79
How adorable, another pro-bernie post annoys you! nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #32
Sure Jan... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #44
The Young Turks Interview Donkees Oct 2018 #10
Thanks MuseRider Oct 2018 #14
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... SidDithers Oct 2018 #16
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #17
He's waiting for Trump to release his first Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #19
Bernie has made a lot of enemies fighting the corpos but, he persists. Thank you Senator. jalan48 Oct 2018 #20
DURec leftstreet Oct 2018 #22
and loved how he said that tRump said he was for the middle class ...... a kennedy Oct 2018 #29
Bernie is a difference maker, that's for sure... leads in leading by example. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #74
Leads by example? Can you elaborate please. Thanks. George II Oct 2018 #77
Oh dear R B Garr Oct 2018 #78
Not a state Senator....brilliant point there Garr. Totally relevant how? JCanete Oct 2018 #85
What "example" did he "lead by?"(nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #90
In this case, I'm not sure what the argument is specifically, nor did I make it. I wouldn't be JCanete Oct 2018 #92
What a mish mash of non points. You are saying that *I* should be making R B Garr Oct 2018 #96
The facts are self-evident, your point that you somehow wanted to lay at the feet of JCanete Oct 2018 #99
How is it "self-evident" when even you can't provide an example? (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #104
Oh please! How uninformed and what outright distortion. This whole R B Garr Oct 2018 #106
maybe, the specific post you posted this to was somebody saying he leads by example, and then you JCanete Oct 2018 #109
Excuses excuses. If he hasn't influenced politicians in Vermont R B Garr Oct 2018 #111
The "prove a negative" fallacy. ehrnst Oct 2018 #103
If you are asking this, then you are just desperate to deflect. R B Garr Oct 2018 #95
K&R SMC22307 Oct 2018 #31
LOL. Bernie could cure cancer,secure world peace and save a puppy. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #33
The "usual suspects" goes both ways, very JPRish. R B Garr Oct 2018 #34
What is JPR? Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #35
That's funny! I just quoted some trivia about the Usual Suspects. R B Garr Oct 2018 #36
"The Usual Suspects"... classic disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #60
The usual suspects works both ways, so it's pretty petty actually. R B Garr Oct 2018 #72
The usual suspects give Bernie credit for any thing treestar Oct 2018 #66
"The cause of fair wages and fair treatment has always required the rallying of public sentiment dgauss Oct 2018 #37
What say you about the fact that Amazon has restructured the stock award program.... George II Oct 2018 #43
"Amazon has implemented a shell game that everyone has fallen for." -- Interesting. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #55
This important group appreciates Bernie, have you seen this from Fight for $15? BeckyDem Oct 2018 #51
Nobody has spoken up for and fought for economic equality like Bernie has. Bluepinky Oct 2018 #57
Nobody? That is not true. Bfd Oct 2018 #65
I'm sorry I used the word nobody, he hasn't been the only one. Bluepinky Oct 2018 #68
Thanks. Here's President Bill Clinton's miraculous success in turning the economy around Bfd Oct 2018 #70
under Clinton the rich got substantially richer. Yeah, everybody was doing better, but in the end JCanete Oct 2018 #86
Yes, but, but, Bernie is not a Democrat... haven't you heard? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #73
You're kidding! Bluepinky Oct 2018 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Bfd Oct 2018 #82
Have we heard from the "Fight For 12 - 15 Is Too Much And Will Hurt Small businesses" group? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #80
Still at the bingo hall. n/t QC Oct 2018 #110
'After this, therefore because of this' looks great on a t-shirt, and sounds even better in Latin LanternWaste Oct 2018 #52
That's funny! You rock! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #56
And the beat goes on...... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #59
. peekaloo Oct 2018 #75
I'm rereading "Lord of Light" ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #81
Love Zelazny. nt tblue37 Oct 2018 #94
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #101
The circular firing squad that constitutes the majority of this thread ... is fucking pathetic ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #102
I believe that's a sound analysis of the situation mr_lebowski Uncle Joe Oct 2018 #105
I've learned to tune it out.. (& sometimes mock it) disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #112
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