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shanny

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51. I love the intermountain West and always will

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:13 PM

Oct 2018

but the politics make me crazy. Libertarianism and resentment of federal authority, the myth of rugged individualism, etc. It all overlooks the fact that federal investment BUILT the economy there and continues to subsidize it. The railroads! The Homestead Act. Fucking Custer et al. The General Mining Act of 1872, the gift that keeps on giving. Bureau of Reclamation dams on everything bigger than a garden hose. Building and maintaining logging roads on the public dime. Subsidized grazing on public land. Predator control by F&W, with payments for losses. The list goes on and it continues today. I doubt if those states with wide open spaces would be economically viable without it, even with tourist dollars to help.

Maybe it is the underlying resentment of the dependent for their patrons that turns them against the government and makes them want less of it.

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Wyoming is one of the least religious states in the Union. [View all] Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 OP

White supremacy and patriarchy is the dominant religion in the US. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #1

True. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #2

What we typically think of as religion is very fractured. But racism is a tie that binds. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #52

Boom ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #4

OMG you nailed it there. nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2018 #12

How do you explain the Democratic Party then? Hortensis Oct 2018 #16

I didn't say any of what you accused me of saying, so I have no comment. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #18

Good. Because those voting, or not voting, their dangerously Hortensis Oct 2018 #24

I'm really not sure what either of your posts have to do with my post, but okay. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #28

I'm generally alarmed these days, Garrett78. Hortensis Oct 2018 #30

Libertarian to the core--hate "big Federal Gubmint" telling them what to do hlthe2b Oct 2018 #3

I didn't know that about the undereducated state house. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #7

I had to testify before the state Legislature a couple of times... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #10

Yeah. Until they want their Social Security and other government checks. roamer65 Oct 2018 #21

To be fair, WY is not within that group of red states that are clearly "takers".. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #33

I'm not a fan of state by state Darwinism. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #34

I agree... n/t hlthe2b Oct 2018 #41

Thank you. john657 Oct 2018 #36

Too much space between people? pwb Oct 2018 #5

And we only have one House Representative. n/t john657 Oct 2018 #27

It's also one of the whitest (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Oct 2018 #6

Home to Darth Cheney CentralMass Oct 2018 #8

Grazing, hunting, water, natural resources.... KentuckyWoman Oct 2018 #9

Part of that impact 2naSalit Oct 2018 #37

Informative post, thank you! Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #39

Didn't think that 2naSalit Oct 2018 #40

That must have been quite frustrating. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #42

Sadly 2naSalit Oct 2018 #45

Thank you. john657 Oct 2018 #43

COWBOYS with their GUNS!!! bluestarone Oct 2018 #11

It's difficult being a Democrat in Wyoming, john657 Oct 2018 #13

YOU ARE RIGHT!! bluestarone Oct 2018 #14

Bighorn Mountains, john657 Oct 2018 #23

And AWESOME trout streams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Oct 2018 #35

For sure. n/t john657 Oct 2018 #38

It is beautiful. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #15

Wyoming had a Democratic Governor recently DFW Oct 2018 #17

Yep, john657 Oct 2018 #20

I have been through Wyoming and it is beautiful but I would put WA Cascades grantcart Oct 2018 #44

LOL, you are right, we are both a bit biased. john657 Oct 2018 #46

Oh my God, the Cascades. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #47

Heavily rural. nt Blue_true Oct 2018 #19

Because all other countries are run by little girls... jpak Oct 2018 #22

blacks and Latinos are the most religious as a whole in this country JI7 Oct 2018 #25

Good point Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #32

"Conservatism" in rural areas may just mean moondust Oct 2018 #26

It's a white enclave that hates Native Americans MrScorpio Oct 2018 #29

Then you know nothing about Wyoming. n/t john657 Oct 2018 #31

Western conservatism generally gets framed around "don't tell me what to do" brooklynite Oct 2018 #48

Anti-government libertarianism? treestar Oct 2018 #49

No, you pretty much nailed it. n/t john657 Oct 2018 #50

That's the vibe I'm getting from this thread. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #53

I love the intermountain West and always will shanny Oct 2018 #51