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In reply to the discussion: Ocasio-Cortez backs campaign to primary fellow Democrats [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)173. no...its big money. You know that too. And there were enough voices here at the time suggesting
that primarying him or any sitting democrats at all was folly.
That said, would Manchin win in his state if things were remotely on an even field? Maybe. How would we know. Our politics rarely resembles anything close to that.
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We can start with the 16 DINOs that signed the anti-Pelosi letter, Dems internal shit-stirrers.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2018
#245
She needs to stop the national spotlighting and focus on her OWN district. Or they'll toss her.
LBM20
Nov 2018
#64
It was to send a message... the real question is whether it's been received.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#253
To me, she behaves like she's serving on the Student Governance Board of some college.
DonViejo
Nov 2018
#7
She isn't going to do her job for her district -- she thinks that THIS is her job despite the scanty
elfin
Nov 2018
#29
I agree and her district will expect her to work on their behalf...not sure getting involved with
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#192
Not to seem critical of Tlaib, she's going to be a great Representative and do her district proud
George II
Nov 2018
#49
Rashida Tlaib won a squeaker in the primary and AOC's prior endorsement may have helped
Kaleva
Nov 2018
#90
Not in the House with their 2-year terms. She could be out before she learns the ropes.
brush
Nov 2018
#165
I don't know about candidates that she endorsed personally, but her organization...
George II
Nov 2018
#53
Well, that says a lot. Hopefully the Dems will move on without her if she doesn't come around
Thekaspervote
Nov 2018
#86
And Christine Whitmer and Lacy Clay in their primaries, too. All three won their primaries...
George II
Nov 2018
#132
United has to fall or we will lose the house again...you need money to run.
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#198
I can point to 4 positions on big issues where they differed (Welder and Davids)
Celerity
Nov 2018
#194
Sharice Davids' primary was among six candidates. She actually got 10% more voted than
George II
Nov 2018
#181
I think she will be a good Rep too, but please, the 10% above number is entirely
Celerity
Nov 2018
#203
So she is going to start making enemies five minutes after getting there? Does she not realize she
RelativelyJones
Nov 2018
#9
People in other states and districts can determine for themselves who they want to represent them,
still_one
Nov 2018
#18
Nothing to apologize for. There are going to be disagreements in discussions here, and that is a
still_one
Nov 2018
#47
"Argument"? Did someone say you couldn't have an opinion? I just gave mine as to why I think
Nanjeanne
Nov 2018
#112
AOC is young and inexperienced. But she has passion and brains and she is going to be a wonderful
Nanjeanne
Nov 2018
#146
It's November 2018. The next round of primary campaigns will begin in the spring of 2020....
George II
Nov 2018
#134
First on the list is to primary any Democrat who makes it a priority to primary
grantcart
Nov 2018
#157
Of course this is from The Hill trying to stir up sh*t between Democrats. As far as representative
still_one
Nov 2018
#17
So, throwing her weight behind this movement is not to be reported upon and discussed?
DonViejo
Nov 2018
#20
Where did I say anything against NOT posting this OP? My comment was directed at The Hill, which
still_one
Nov 2018
#40
Sorry if you don't like it but, that's the the implication of your whining about The Hill.
DonViejo
Nov 2018
#48
I am stating my view about The Hill Don. Sorry that you are taking this personally. I feel the
still_one
Nov 2018
#63
Hopefully AOC realizes that she too will be an incumbent during the next midterm primary elections.
lapucelle
Nov 2018
#41
"Democrats deemed to be ideologically and demographically out of step with their districts."
Tom Rinaldo
Nov 2018
#30
again, why is she the arbiter of what that is? She has her district to contend with,
JHan
Nov 2018
#32
The subject is trying to move the Democratic Party in one direction or another
Tom Rinaldo
Nov 2018
#44
Are other Democrats proposing to actively unseat Democratic incumbants outside their districts?
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#99
The Democratic Party is different in the midwest or southwest than it is in the northeast...
George II
Nov 2018
#158
According to Saikat Chakrabart, co-founder of Justice Democrats and Cortez' co-board member....
George II
Nov 2018
#185
Meanwhile it just drives up the costs and empties the coffers of incumbent Democrats...
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#213
Thanks radius I was going to mention that but the convo isn't about him and you're right.
JHan
Nov 2018
#238
If they are paid for by big energy or pharmaceutical money why not speak up against them?
pwb
Nov 2018
#103
Let's get some things out of the way because the spin y'all are coming with is lol worthy.
JHan
Nov 2018
#104
We got the blue wave because we fielded moderates who could win red-leaning districts.
LBM20
Nov 2018
#57
She is right. Anyone that ignores our core principles and sit in the pocket of big money is not on
Blue_true
Nov 2018
#31
Which Democrats "sit in the pocket of big money" and "ignore the party's core principles"? N/T
lapucelle
Nov 2018
#36
Mahalo Cha! Enjoy Pink Floyd as you await the apocryphal list of "suspect Democrats".
lapucelle
Nov 2018
#207
I despise Cent and his Justice group...ticket to the minority...aren't these folks tired yet of
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#78
She was involved in primarying a sitting senator in Maryland I believe... she might face
Demsrule86
Nov 2018
#191
Does that include primarying the Democratic incumbent from NY-14 in 2020? N/T
lapucelle
Nov 2018
#33
well that's the irony. No one yet has spun this in a way which makes any damn sense
JHan
Nov 2018
#58
And Joseph Crowley will STILL the the Queens County Democratic Party Chairman.
George II
Nov 2018
#142
Good, championing moving to the left will balance those who would drag us to the right.
Magoo48
Nov 2018
#45
No one is dragging us to the right.We must be the party of MIDDLE America too because
LBM20
Nov 2018
#62
Still can't or won't give the names of those you claim are "dragging us to the right."
ehrnst
Nov 2018
#256
OK, I'll play your game. I googled the most progressive house members and their donors
ehrnst
Nov 2018
#257
I'd rather see this kind of energy and effort spent trying to DEFEAT REPUBLICANS instead.
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#54
That's exactly the idea. Can't understand why that is so efn hard for some to grasp.
brush
Nov 2018
#195
She needs to focus on her OWN district or they may well toss her out in two years.
LBM20
Nov 2018
#59
She's right about this. I'm sure there will be push back from powerful, monied interests.
jalan48
Nov 2018
#56
Moderates largely fueled the blue wave winning seats held by Republicans. She needs to focus on her
LBM20
Nov 2018
#61
Fox 5 at 5 said they are loving this. Love it so much they called it 'REPUBLICAN PORN'!
empedocles
Nov 2018
#77
What does wanting to get big money out of our elections have to do with dividing from within?
jalan48
Nov 2018
#80
You could be right. It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next two years.
jalan48
Nov 2018
#94
Any member who is still on the fence about climate change ought to be considered for replacement
eleny
Nov 2018
#66
Better to swap-in Democrats for Republicans (instead of Democrat for Democrat)...
NurseJackie
Nov 2018
#74
And the primary is exactly where we should be having these fights. In fact, I've seen posters
JCanete
Nov 2018
#98
it isn't the spirited primary or discussion that is the problem, it is after the primary those
still_one
Nov 2018
#107
Joe Manchin WAS in a "spirited primary", he wound up winning 69.9% to 30.1%. He was chosen....
George II
Nov 2018
#164
no...its big money. You know that too. And there were enough voices here at the time suggesting
JCanete
Nov 2018
#173
Please stop that "you know that" stuff, it's not true and is offensive. Thanks!
George II
Nov 2018
#182
"Big money" didn't win his primary or his general election. People like to think that....
George II
Nov 2018
#189
do you know who his donors are? Big Money puts you on the map and easily buries your potential
JCanete
Nov 2018
#190
Also, we have issues iwth those things because they literally buy our government. Please for the
JCanete
Nov 2018
#193
What misconsception, and how do you think political opinions are formed anyway? It takes a
JCanete
Nov 2018
#179
AOC says since she doesn't take PAC money like the others, she only speaks for her constituents
Stellar
Nov 2018
#247
Hmmmm, she will be an incumbent in 2020. What comes around goes around perhaps
still_one
Nov 2018
#128
I can think of one Dem who will probably be primaried in 2020: AOC. nt
JustABozoOnThisBus
Nov 2018
#137
His age and gender are not the issue, Bettie, and "vitriol" is not being spewed her way by us...
Hekate
Nov 2018
#188
First, you may be unclear on the parameters. Second, when a Dem wants to primary other Dems...
Hekate
Nov 2018
#258
Democrats would do better to have candidates in ALL races, leaving no republican unchallenged
liberal N proud
Nov 2018
#177
I wish AOC would bring her sharp outfits, and her Instagram Live to WA-03 and help us defeat JBH.
violetpastille
Nov 2018
#199
With all due respect,those were normal times. I doubt he'd say that right now.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2018
#260