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PoindexterOglethorpe

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17. Yes.

Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:45 AM

Jan 2019

Hardly anyone gets that.

People are astonishingly ignorant of what government actually does for all of us. The inclination to condemn the government is pervasive and dangerous.

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I think we are missing the most damaging aspects of the shutdown to the right... [View all] GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 OP

You are correct. nt sheshe2 Jan 2019 #1

Not quite. Let's think deeper, more long term.... DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #16

Pretty sure the OP covered that. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #19

A country of over 325 million cannot have a small government. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #31

A big, complicated Country requires a robust, responsive government... annabanana Jan 2019 #50

With somebody intelligent MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #52

And having a competent electorate requires work. And awareness of the actual issues, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #61

The interesting thing is "small government" will hurt the people pushing it most. Blue_true Jan 2019 #54

Great point! dragonlady Jan 2019 #64

Haven't heard the term "regenerative infrastructure" before. EarnestPutz Jan 2019 #37

Things have gotten so complex on planet Earth... DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #58

I'm with you. The role of government in a market economy is PatrickforO Jan 2019 #42

No right-winger will have the foggiest idea what ""regenerative infrastructure" means. pangaia Jan 2019 #43

Good points by all above! Thanks for groking my squawking DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #55

Nope. But I have no idea. pangaia Jan 2019 #62

Well, that's because they're so busy "degenerating".... DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #57

It's like the national debt LeftInTX Jan 2019 #2

Repugs want government volstork Jan 2019 #20

they want a government just big enough to protect them from their slaves DBoon Jan 2019 #26

Charlie Pierce is on it! volstork Jan 2019 #3

Wow. Ok. Maybe some are talking it. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #5

my favorite paragraph Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #7

Yes, absolutely manor321 Jan 2019 #4

I think there is a new hunger for effective government and delisen Jan 2019 #6

The example I use jmowreader Jan 2019 #8

Yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #17

You are correct, and volstork Jan 2019 #22

Jeeze, if government controls all that stuff, it certainly must be too big ! pangaia Jan 2019 #44

Yes! volstork Jan 2019 #49

That narrative is not meant to get rid of departments or services Perseus Jan 2019 #9

+1. Nailed it, nicely said. yonder Jan 2019 #14

You've just described the oligarchy system that's running Russia now FakeNoose Jan 2019 #34

Its like The Church volstork Jan 2019 #51

Not sure I am following your point? That the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #10

The right had been saying we don't need much government. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #13

Basically, I think, yes. They hate what they sneer and smear as big government. calimary Jan 2019 #18

Thanks for explanation. I imagine some learned from it. But, living Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #24

" Although they wanted to help, they couldn't because of rules/policies." pangaia Jan 2019 #53

Problem is, most of them were not affected by it at all. pangaia Jan 2019 #47

This libertarian bull has been going on ever since James Buchanan and his band of merry men turbinetree Jan 2019 #11

Jodey Arrington is on the House Ways and Means Committee... czarjak Jan 2019 #12

Excellent point! orangecrush Jan 2019 #15

Yes. Let's hope it lasts. yardwork Jan 2019 #21

To me this is the most important idea of the day! Thank you! ancianita Jan 2019 #23

Why would anyone vote for a candidate who has disdain for government? CrispyQ Jan 2019 #25

Jesus, guns, minorities. I'd guess these are there top 3 reasons GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #27

Unfortunately that requires.... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #28

K and R Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #29

The GOP loves these points ... TwistOneUp Jan 2019 #30

Not sure the GOP wants true "Religious freedom" erronis Jan 2019 #36

Another bullshit narrative along with trickle down economics, yet intelligence challenged world wide wally Jan 2019 #32

K&R northoftheborder Jan 2019 #33

Here is the thing about big vs small government and how the RW sells it to voters.. world wide wally Jan 2019 #35

the problem has a name: "submergence" nuxvomica Jan 2019 #38

Kind of like "women's work".. you know, the boring, maintenance kind of stuff. annabanana Jan 2019 #48

The Washington Post has reported on this aspect of the damage to the GOP. Nitram Jan 2019 #39

If government is the problem, Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #40

Clearly, to screw it up. . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2019 #46

national parks destroyed, HUD payments halted, etc. n/t CousinIT Jan 2019 #41

"Big, Complicated Country needs Robust, Responsive Government" annabanana Jan 2019 #45

Yeah...I always push back on that argument. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #56

I posted about this earlier in the week. These people want to eliminate 'the state'. GoneOffShore Jan 2019 #59

Great point. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #60

K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #63

WHEN AIRLINE GROSS RECEIPTS DROP 5% homegirl Jan 2019 #65