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Ford_Prefect

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12. I am forever fascinated with those who claim to be party purists yet deny the value of those pols
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:30 PM
Mar 2019

who lead on significant issues of the day rather than by dramatically parroting dogma or patronizing powerful leadership and sponsors. I wonder how Henry Wallace or Harry Truman would fare in the hyper PC sensitive, poll driven optics of today? FDR drew from both sides of the aisle and broadly among political outsiders when building a government to face the worst of financial oppression and world tyranny.

For myself I see that we cannot go forward by circumspection. We must apply reason and reality check our goals. If we do not apply this common sense to evaluate our purpose and the process by which it must move forwards there will be no reason for those who most need our leadership in government to exert the fortitude needed to vote in some of the most contentious districts and electoral climate since 1860.

I would say that those who claim faith in the party of FDR must first read how that party came to be in all its inglorious incongruity. I am a product of the FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Carter Party. I have sincere regrets over some of the actions of all of them.

I have my doubts about some of Bill Clinton's lesser choices and likewise feel that Obama let us down on some issues. I expected better of both of them. That doesn't mean they did not advance the Democratic cause nor did I refuse to vote for either man.

If you cannot face the issues related to our collective future without claiming party privilege by virtue of dogmatic labeling then you have no place contribute from. You are not dealing with the genuine issues but instead you cite the hubris of presumed moral superiority. We need people involved who are and have been taking on the real issues and who can add something to the discussion of how to address them.

We cannot afford to pretend that Politics as usual in any form will take us forwards. We must be bold and pragmatic. That is what repeatedly has won the day in the face of racist terrorism on the right and pathetic appeals to the pretense of "patriotism". Everyday voters are ever so tired of having the reality they see every day ignored in Congress and elsewhere. They need a political voice that speaks the sometimes ugly truth on the issues so that no-one in Flint, Michigan or any other town needs to worry about the water in their pipes while they are trying to find enough income to feed their families. They need a government that is willing to deliver on promises of better managing the planet: the air, the food, the water, and the overall ecology. They need politicians and federal agencies who are looking out for the future of ALL of the voters rather than those who own most of the GNP. We can no longer tolerate endless war, in ANY form. We need foreign policy that relates to a world already collapsing under the advancing pressures brought by climate change: even the Pentagon said so.

The only way this canoe goes forward is that everyone with a paddle rows. Anyone without makes sure there are more paddles and rowers ready. That is what we must do. Throwing resources and people out because you don't like the coat they are wearing is wasting energy and time we don't have.

Out of curiosity, do you think any of our candidates are not? brooklynite Mar 2019 #1
I leave it to the candidates to define themselves. For the most part, they identify as Democrats lapucelle Mar 2019 #3
I think one of our candidates is confused. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #23
That you, Howard? democrank Mar 2019 #2
... lapucelle Mar 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #16
No, THIS is Howard DFW Mar 2019 #25
I am sick of this bigotry Cartoonist Mar 2019 #5
... lapucelle Mar 2019 #6
Don't think about it too much. I never understood James Joyce Stream of the subconcious still_one Mar 2019 #26
Wha???? Adrahil Mar 2019 #14
Is this what they call performance art? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #22
... betsuni Mar 2019 #24
Same here and I will only support candidates who are proud members of the Democratic Party Gothmog Mar 2019 #7
+ 1 musette_sf Mar 2019 #10
FDR? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #8
Interesting sig line. lapucelle Mar 2019 #9
Guess you didn't get the joke Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #11
Before I respond, tell me you forgot the sarcasm thingy!!! Please. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #13
No I didn't Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #21
I am forever fascinated with those who claim to be party purists yet deny the value of those pols Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #12
Good post but not really accurate. FDR did not draw republican support. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #15
The GOP hated him as did much of the class he came from (who didn't appreciate being taxed). Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #17
Certainly, but back then the military was seen as non political. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #18
I lived 36 years in North Carolina and know well that history. Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #19
You are so right about the hidden racial strife during WWII. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #20
KR Me. Mar 2019 #27
FDR was a free trader riverine Mar 2019 #28
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