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105. The Swedish investigation into the Assange matter has reached the point at which the authorities

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:34 PM

Aug 2012

are ready to take Assange into custody while they make a determination about whether or not to take a case to trial

The day after Assange's lawyer learned this, from the prosecutor who was attempting to arrange the second interview through that same lawyer, Assange fled from Sweden to the UK

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I don't know what the fuck to believe anymore about the Assange case. [View all] Odin2005 Aug 2012 OP

Me too. fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #1

Let the whistleblower experts do the vetting and look for consensus. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #136

Can someone clarify for me: Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #2

The Swedish criminal process is not the same as the process in the UK struggle4progress Aug 2012 #43

Do you have a single button that posts that message? Marr Aug 2012 #104

The Swedish investigation into the Assange matter has reached the point at which the authorities struggle4progress Aug 2012 #105

The worse thing that could happen to the Assange apologists at this point Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #134

the crimes he's accused of are sexual assault and rape TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #126

Thank you for explaining the differences in Swedish law. Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #143

Frankly, he lost me when he called Sweden "the Saudi Arabia of feminism." Chorophyll Aug 2012 #3

So... 99Forever Aug 2012 #5

Yes, I do judge him for that remark. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #8

We're not talking about what I ... 99Forever Aug 2012 #11

Back at ya. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #14

Welll thanks... 99Forever Aug 2012 #17

I don't see much point in carrying the conversation any further. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #18

There ya go again. 99Forever Aug 2012 #21

And bullying people and calling them names is progressive, right? nt CabCurious Aug 2012 #24

"The Saudi Arabia of feminism" will never NOT offend my sensibilities. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #26

Help me out here. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #41

I took it to be a dig at Sweden BECAUSE it leans toward feminism. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #106

It's not a compliment tama Aug 2012 #129

What? brush Aug 2012 #89

"... It's embarrassing to say so, given that even a single man, as I was, is liable struggle4progress Aug 2012 #110

See post 129 nt tama Aug 2012 #130

So, what are your credentials? reorg Aug 2012 #144

I don't need credentials to have an opinon. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #145

it's spy v spy, that's why HiPointDem Aug 2012 #4

How do you define the word "spy"? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #93

Read this: treestar Aug 2012 #6

Obviously he doesn't have shit about the banksters. randome Aug 2012 #7

So you support big brother government and not a whistleblower? rhett o rick Aug 2012 #42

I fully support whistleblowers and I support Wikileaks. randome Aug 2012 #47

How can you blow the whistle without stealing information? rhett o rick Aug 2012 #52

What part of 'support whistle blowing and Wikileaks' do you choose to not read? randome Aug 2012 #55

Good grief. Blowing the whistle involves breaking some rules, violating some rhett o rick Aug 2012 #86

No. Truly, I just think it's an interesting case. randome Aug 2012 #90

If in doubt I tend to side against "The Man". rhett o rick Aug 2012 #96

Do you know of evidence that Assange "talked" Manning into providing the documents? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #97

Wow, just wow! Not only do you use unsubstantiated accusation about Assange's involvement idwiyo Aug 2012 #98

Assange doesn't have that info anymore. It was deleted by a turncoat, idwiyo Aug 2012 #95

Assange in February 2011 said the BoA stuff just wasn't interesting: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #111

More info here: idwiyo Aug 2012 #121

Assange is getting what he wants. Lots of attention. hunter Aug 2012 #9

Plus he's already so visible, it would be impossible to 'disappear' him. randome Aug 2012 #10

UK protected Pinochet from extradition. Assange not charged w/any crime WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #12

Nonsense. Robb Aug 2012 #20

Why do people keep cutting and pasting this dude? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #82

You've proven only you didn't read my post. Robb Aug 2012 #87

Actually, I think you did not read my post. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #109

Someone besides me is quoting Dan Lucas? Robb Aug 2012 #112

"David Allen Green is legal correspondent of the New Statesman" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #113

WikiLeaks' Most Terrifying Revelation: Just How Much Our Government Lies to Us WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #13

And what changed because of this? Anything? randome Aug 2012 #15

the Tunisian revolution Enrique Aug 2012 #25

Maybe so but did that affect the U.S.? randome Aug 2012 #27

You don't seem to remember... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #40

Really? Pontificating policians are now to be believed? randome Aug 2012 #48

No, but the point is... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #53

That was more than a year ago. randome Aug 2012 #58

According to this Reuter's article... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #59

The first link you provided was written in May, 2011. randome Aug 2012 #60

I can't read his mind, but... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #64

I appologize. My statement wasnt polite. I have periods of frustration. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #44

Ha! I agree only with the evidence as I see it. randome Aug 2012 #45

And some would argue that conservatives shouldnt be allowed on progressive boards rhett o rick Aug 2012 #54

Ouch! randome Aug 2012 #56

I again appologize. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #73

Wow. That was impressive. No snark intended. randome Aug 2012 #77

Seems that someone doesn't like you :) idwiyo Aug 2012 #62

Well I was wrong. I should be able to stand up to the conservatives rhett o rick Aug 2012 #92

Nah, nothing wrong with good snark once in a while. :) idwiyo Aug 2012 #107

Yes I agree. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #116

So much, where should we begin? Iceland? Wikileaks exposure of sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #141

My favorite part of this: Wikileaks unearthed that the Tunisians were 1st in arab world to oust cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #32

Note that all of these "leaks" are about past events. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #99

I think he's a creep ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #16

i agree, i haven't waded off into the assange business here until today arely staircase Aug 2012 #19

Personally I doubt they got those records nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #23

apparently they turned out to be fake arely staircase Aug 2012 #28

Let me offer you a possibility here nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #30

no wikileaks released what they thought were steve job's medical records arely staircase Aug 2012 #34

Yeah but the problem we have is the series of honey pots nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #36

unless the cia hypnotized them and made them proudly release what they arely staircase Aug 2012 #37

I do not remeber them being proud of it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38

You are probably right. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #100

Wikileaks DID leak that, and it turned out, it was fake. MADem Aug 2012 #57

IT stopped being about Julian Assange a while ago nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22

If you think you are confused now... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #29

+1! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #31

This is exactly the misogynistic shit I was speaking of. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #33

I am not assuming anything. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #39

What assumptions would they be? sibelian Aug 2012 #46

Kalidurga's post is misogynistic? Say what?? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #51

I believe it is misogynistic to assume that women, unlike men, can never be wrong. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #63

It IS misogynist to assume that... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #74

This is not the reason for the doubts about these women's testimony. The doubts arise from sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #81

Once... Bonobo Aug 2012 #124

I've had tama Aug 2012 #127

Yes, but the question is... Bonobo Aug 2012 #128

It becomes abuse or rape tama Aug 2012 #131

I agree with you, sabrina 1. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #102

Well put. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #117

I think a good starting point for a rape victim is them saying "i was raped" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #66

I don't know what sources to believe. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #75

The whole story is weird. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #76

The Swedes just need to promise that they don't rendition him to the US. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #80

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #84

they can't make such a promise since it would go against international law Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #103

International law is guided by the specific treaty between the US and Sweden... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #108

why request a promise for something that goes against the treaty by its own words? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #115

I'm not an expert... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #118

Here's an update to my response above... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #125

You are wrong about the court's role. ljm2002 Aug 2012 #139

What international law would it violate? ronnie624 Aug 2012 #137

I'm sure everyone accused of a crime would like a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card for any other crimes. randome Aug 2012 #85

So, then, the RULES are the RULES, right? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #88

I don't think Sweden has to do shit. randome Aug 2012 #91

I can understand his hesitation, though. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #94

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #123

Misogynistic? ronnie624 Aug 2012 #135

And Bush and Cheney enjoy their retirement although they started the War in Iraq on a pretext JDPriestly Aug 2012 #101

I've given up trying to figure Assange out. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #35

It doesn't matter. You can't do anything about it. Best to put your energy Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #49

it is not mysogyny to say there is no rape charge magical thyme Aug 2012 #50

No, it's stupidity. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #61

way to have a civil conversation, win contempt and influence nobody magical thyme Aug 2012 #119

I don't blame you. Which is what I've been trying to explain - NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #65

I disagree with the latter parts of your post.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #69

Lol... Misogynists fascisthunter Aug 2012 #67

I don't give a shit what he did at this point... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #68

rape is rape graham4anything Aug 2012 #70

Believe only the facts that can be verified. Cleita Aug 2012 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #72

at this time I stand with Assange 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #78

And that is how they want you to feel. Autumn Aug 2012 #79

Join the club. pnwmom Aug 2012 #83

Right there with you, buddy Prophet 451 Aug 2012 #114

That's pretty much it. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #122

The words of U.S. government officials make things quite clear. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #140

"right after he threatened to publish some stuff that would make the Banksters look bad" NCTraveler Aug 2012 #120

The actions of the governments involved make no sense in historical context TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #132

"I don't know what the fuck to believe anymore about the Assange case." 99Forever Aug 2012 #133

I agree Johonny Aug 2012 #138

Anyone that TPTB are that desparate to take down hifiguy Aug 2012 #142