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calimary

(81,179 posts)
33. YES. More questions:
Sun May 12, 2019, 02:28 PM
May 2019

You're okay with what they're doing to babies and their families at the border? Ripping infants and toddlers out of their mothers' arms? Keeping those kids in cages? Or farming them out across the country to parts unknown, spiriting them off into the night into orphanages hundreds of miles away, and then not even bothering to keep track (so they may never be able to reunite with their birth families)? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with the fact that at least three children have died in those conditions - on our watch, and in our cages? DIED. One of them was 16, but the other two were LITTLE kids. Died ALONE. In a cage. On the floor. With MAYBE a mat or towel to sleep on, and one of those "tin-foil" "blankets to wrap up in? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with denying poor families, especially those with single-(mainly female)-heads-of-households, funding, programs that help them AND their kids? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with denying funding for decent public schooling? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with denying working mothers affordable childcare? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with denying funding programs so that some of these kids get an actual breakfast in the morning, and a decent nutritious school lunch? Some of these kids come from families so poor that this is likely the only regular meal they're sure they can get. Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with ramping up hostilities overseas so that we're on the verge of war with several countries including one (Venezuela) IN OUR OWN HEMISPHERE? (News flash: it won't always be somebody else's kid who gets sent off to fight and die or get his/her legs blown off.) Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with no broad-based affordable health care? Just because YOU may have a job with health care at least at the moment because you don't wanna have to pay for all those "lazy moochers" getting "free stuff" on your dime? Because otherwise they might get sick and perhaps even die of their illnesses or injuries? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with not vaccinating your kids? So they're not only more vulnerable to catching something - but ALSO then able to spread it through the community to every individual they encounter - ANYWHERE? (Because Jenny McCarthy, or your "freedom-freedom", or because some stupid libtard cautioned you against it, so by Jove you're gonna show THEM who's the boss of you?) Measles anyone? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with ignoring or scoffing at the climate crisis? When it's YOUR planet, too, and YOUR kids and grandkids are gonna have to live in it as it heats up and causes die-offs and mass extinctions of species and dwindling human-habitable land because you didn't think it was worth doing anything about - or even taking seriously? Then you're NOT "pro-life."

You're okay with ignoring Matthew 25:35-45 - the one about "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me"? Well then, you aren't the true and legitimate Jesus-worshipper that you'll loudly insist that you are. And you SURE AS HELL aren't "pro-life"!!!

while i certainly agree with your approach rampartc May 2019 #1
There's a part of the pro-life movement who want exactly this -- charges for both the person who WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #2
Tell them this will fill our prisons and raise their taxes. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #3
They don't care. Anything to stop abortion in all circumstances and punish those involved. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #4
Well, if a doctor has determined that the life of the mother is threatened by a pregnancy, sarabelle May 2019 #5
That's a higher level of debate than most of their minds can handle. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #9
So for men, having unprotected sex greymattermom May 2019 #6
That's certainly an argument a good lawyer could make. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #10
If men have any responsibility for pregnancy, greymattermom May 2019 #7
+1 2naSalit May 2019 #12
the whole problem is: men are not held accountable for sex. This patriarchy we are all CharleyDog May 2019 #32
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2019 #41
I always felt the strongest argument is that the forced birthers are violating our freedom of religi RAB910 May 2019 #8
Another viable argument. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #11
Regarding abortion, there is no "winning" an argument with those who disagree with you elocs May 2019 #13
I actually have changed a few minds. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #14
The problem is that the new Christians would be on board for this Buckeyeblue May 2019 #15
Only until their preachers and deacons are jailed. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #17
I usually find it impossible to change minds on this issue, but........ DFW May 2019 #16
Love it. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #19
YES. More questions: calimary May 2019 #33
The trouble with that is DFW May 2019 #39
intelligent Rambling Man May 2019 #35
The American Taliban would agree with you FakeNoose May 2019 #18
That argument concedes that abortion is murder Martin Eden May 2019 #20
My argument said.....hmmmm Funtatlaguy May 2019 #21
I didn't think you believe abortion is murder Martin Eden May 2019 #23
I concede to them that they believe that and I am Funtatlaguy May 2019 #24
More people should point out that abortion is not murder, it is abortion treestar May 2019 #25
"They call it murder to make an appeal to emotion." Martin Eden May 2019 #34
My approach is different but it still uses pre-meditated murder. Cold War Spook May 2019 #22
too many would have ZERO issue with your argument.... beachbum bob May 2019 #26
Just wait until it's someone they know that's involved Funtatlaguy May 2019 #28
thats always the case with almost all people, but still doesn't stop them from supporting insane beachbum bob May 2019 #29
I would never concede to them that abortion is murder. CrispyQ May 2019 #27
Some of them wouild be ok with that nini May 2019 #30
They are not "Pro-Life" Thunderbeast May 2019 #31
They just hate women Rambling Man May 2019 #36
Looking at them with pity in my eyes and saying, "God, you're stupid," LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #37
Given that they're probably already ok with murdering any Planned Parenthood M.D., ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2019 #38
I've thought of this argument a while ago, and I never used it but then... TlalocW May 2019 #40
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