The only way to beat Republicans is to use their tactics. (Reply #29)

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Tue May 21, 2019, 02:17 PM

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29. The only way to beat Republicans is to use their tactics.

Civility, “taking the high road,” following the rule of law, using fair play, allowing the system to self-correct— these have ALL failed.

America is now entangled in an existential struggle. Republicans, who’ve drunk deeply from the cup of autocracy, are just fine with letting democracy die.

Like any bully, fighting back viciously is the only thing that he/she/it understands. We’ve “waited for Mueller,” and what gains have comes from that?

It’s past time to begin impeachment proceedings.

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34 replies	Author	Time	Post
If there is no impeachment, Trump and the Republicans will go into the next election.... [View all]	kentuck	May 2019	OP
Not to mention few Americans want to support those who do not "stand for something"	hlthe2b	May 2019	#1
Republicans voters could not be blamed for believing that Trump was innocent of all charges.	kentuck	May 2019	#2
Only if Ds let them get away with it. But fail to convict in Senate and tRump will be louder.	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#3
Your point would be more credible if....	kentuck	May 2019	#5
It is credible because the Democrats are investigating & bringing out facts & information NOW. . .nt	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#6
How so?	kentuck	May 2019	#8
Of course! Defendants have rights under the US legal system! And it is NOT "no docs / witnesses".	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#9
Same thing would happen to impeachment hearings: no docs/witnesses, same Court process. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#10
This is exactly what would happen in an impeachment	StarfishSaver	May 2019	#14
There is probably more justification for releasing documents if there is an official impeachment?	kentuck	May 2019	#32
No. There's legal distinction between releasing documents for impeachment or other oversight	StarfishSaver	May 2019	#33
When (not if) the Senate fails to convict	sop	May 2019	#11
A Hobson's Choice is a decision between 'something' and 'nothing'	hlthe2b	May 2019	#15
Pick our failure	Midnightwalk	May 2019	#17
You may be right?	kentuck	May 2019	#18
Nothing I wrote was in favor of "don't impeach". Key phrase in my post: "At this time."	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#19
Fair enough	Midnightwalk	May 2019	#23
Ah, I mean that Republicons can be scared into protecting their seats by convicting when the heat is	Bernardo de La Paz	May 2019	#26
You are correct, sir	gratuitous	May 2019	#4
That would be a problem for them, I would agree.	kentuck	May 2019	#7
They will say that exact same thing if there is an impeachment & Senate doesn't convict.	lark	May 2019	#12
If there IS an impeachment but no conviction, Trump and Republicans will go into the next election	StarfishSaver	May 2019	#13
But something would have happened in the interim...	kentuck	May 2019	#20
Facts and info coming out now.	Nuggets	May 2019	#30
They'll spin it no matter what happens...	Wounded Bear	May 2019	#16
Trump will likely win POTUS 2020 if he is not impeached or otherwise gone	PufPuf23	May 2019	#21
They'll do that anyway when Republicans refuse to convict him in the Senate.	OliverQ	May 2019	#22
After all the evidence has come out showing collusion and obstruction?	kentuck	May 2019	#24
The evidence is already there	TwilightZone	May 2019	#27
Yes. They're saying that right now despite evidence proving obstruction.	OliverQ	May 2019	#34
They'll do that if he's acquitted, as well.	TwilightZone	May 2019	#25
Not if the House continues to uncover	Nuggets	May 2019	#28
The only way to beat Republicans is to use their tactics.	VOX	May 2019	#29
They will say that anyway...	Mike Nelson	May 2019	#31

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