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In reply to the discussion: I don't know what the fuck to believe anymore about the Assange case. [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,018 posts)Put Assange and the charges to the side for a moment, focus on the behavior of the governments, and then reconsider the accusations in that context and ask yourself "does this chain of events make sense in this situation?".
Not should they either but DO they based on track record? I would argue that something stinks to high heaven.
Emotional reaction to the accusation is distorting logic here, it seems to me. Big picture what is going on doesn't jibe even if Assange was guilty as sin and that is without drilling down on the accusations themselves.
Threatening to storm an embassy, really? I would assume that alone would cross any credibility threshold. There is no fucking way. Whatever else one believes, surely no one believes that even such a threat would be made for any such reason.
Hell, I doubt there would be much more than talk if a bin Ladin was holed up an embassy. Add in the Swedish government's lurching about, some very public comments from highly placed American pols, and Ecuador's willingness to actually get in the middle of this shit and questions have to be had or we aren't thinking.
As for the events in question, I lean toward thinking they are essentially unknowable and that the handling of the situation has precluded what only had a puncher's chance of being a fair trial that could get to the bottom of the situation anyway because of the circumstances. At best this was he said, she said. Now it is a trainwreck with almost no possibility of impartial jurists or judges.
How is the presumption of innocence overcome in this kind of situation? So, all of this hubbub over what has to be a dicey case, one now years old where the accused has already once told he was free to go on (and I mean free to go anywhere rather than a "don't leave town" deal) with apparently no new bombshells having come to light?
What Assange did or didn't do is a distraction at the moment because assuming the worst, the governments are not behaving rationally compared to that "worst" and the personal level shit doesn't matter until the big picture why is settled.
I also get the impression that there is much consideration of how you view your self as viewed through the lens of the scenario that is creating internal conflict and I believe that also is distraction and such a distraction that logic gets at least handcuffed.