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In reply to the discussion: Here's why "We Shouldn't Impeach Because Trump won't be Removed by the Senate" isn't even an excuse [View all]Gothmog
(144,005 posts)14. We risk a number of moderate/swing seats going for impeachment without 20 GOP senate votes
Article of Impeachment are a stunt. Right now the polling shows only 27% favor an impeachment inquiry which is a far cry from actual article of impeachment. That number is up 10% percent from the prior polling which is some movement. 27% is not sufficient to win a congressional seat. Many moderate democrats are worried and for good reason. Right now it is my understanding that only 60+ house democrats favor an impeachment inquiry and that is not close to half of the caucus.
Moderate democrats have reason to worry
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Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN) will entertain the idea of impeaching President Trump when hes sure enough votes exist in the GOP-controlled Senate to convict him. Which is to say, not anytime soon.
Were not anywhere close, Peterson told The Daily Beast as he exited the House floor on Tuesday. Hes been pressing his colleagues in the House Democratic caucus to recognize that this simple fact should put impeachment fever to bed, for now. But he says he hasnt had much luck.....
But political concerns clearly are a factor for Democratic moderates and the leadership that is closely following their re-election prospects. Pelosi, for starters, has fed the idea that Trump would welcome impeachment because it would fire up his base heading into the 2020 election. Impeachment proponents scoff at that argument, stressing that historical data isnt conclusive that the public rallies to the president under fire. But polling data tends to show that the country right now isnt enamored with the idea. A new survey from a Michigan-based pollster found in that key swing state, over 41 percent of voters strongly oppose impeachment, while 27 percent strongly supported.
Were not anywhere close, Peterson told The Daily Beast as he exited the House floor on Tuesday. Hes been pressing his colleagues in the House Democratic caucus to recognize that this simple fact should put impeachment fever to bed, for now. But he says he hasnt had much luck.....
But political concerns clearly are a factor for Democratic moderates and the leadership that is closely following their re-election prospects. Pelosi, for starters, has fed the idea that Trump would welcome impeachment because it would fire up his base heading into the 2020 election. Impeachment proponents scoff at that argument, stressing that historical data isnt conclusive that the public rallies to the president under fire. But polling data tends to show that the country right now isnt enamored with the idea. A new survey from a Michigan-based pollster found in that key swing state, over 41 percent of voters strongly oppose impeachment, while 27 percent strongly supported.
The two seats that we flipped in Texas would likely be lost if we file articles of impeachment and trump is vindicated by a GOP controlled Senate.
I want to pick up additional house seats this term and not lose seats. Lizzie and Collin are both good people and it would be a shame to lose these House members. I have been on the phone with both of them (dialing for dollar calls) and they are class people. Collin was with Marc Elias' firm and was involved in the 2016 voter protection efforts.
I support Nancy Pelosi's position here. I also support calling witnesses to testify bout the Mueller report and seeing if we can get the polling to shift on the percentage of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry (which is a far cry from Article of Impeachment).
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Here's why "We Shouldn't Impeach Because Trump won't be Removed by the Senate" isn't even an excuse [View all]
ProfessorPlum
Jun 2019
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K&R, impeachment doesn't mean removal. The party of the impeachment has never fared well in ...
uponit7771
Jun 2019
#4
A serious problem is "if" he were impeached and not removed, and as usual the senate does
RKP5637
Jun 2019
#5
why would he be emboldened? All of his crimes will have been laid out for everyone to see
ProfessorPlum
Jun 2019
#6
I doubt his supporters care. To them he is a great leader, and others use him as best they can.
RKP5637
Jun 2019
#8
A majority of House members do not support impeachment and the American people do not support
Gothmog
Jun 2019
#9
We risk a number of moderate/swing seats going for impeachment without 20 GOP senate votes
Gothmog
Jun 2019
#14
The Senate never even votes on Democratc legislation passed in the house either,
world wide wally
Jun 2019
#15
There are many people declaring what "will happen" if... Good luck at predicting the future.
TryLogic
Jun 2019
#16
Failure to at least open an impeachment inquiry will significantly suppress the youth vote
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2019
#20
Cowards go home- the Constitution needs our best and bravest to defend it
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2019
#19
Impeachment will be nothing more than an exercise. Yes, bring all his crimes, corruption, and
emmaverybo
Jun 2019
#27
but he will be able to go ahead with the doables.. the GOP senate will grant him all his wishes
samnsara
Jun 2019
#33
Nonsense. If it comes to an impeachment vote in the House, the House will vote to impeach
mtnsnake
Jun 2019
#35
You skipped a couple of steps. Before voting to impeach, the House must vote to open an inquiry.
StarfishSaver
Jun 2019
#44
So simple and so true. Dont know why so many just want the vengeance that gives trump ammo
oldsoftie
Jun 2019
#46