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In reply to the discussion: Heads up Portland on the weekend of 17th. White power v. Antifa expected. [View all]Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)26. some info to keep in mind re: "antifa" -- from a clergy member
- Antifa is not an organization; nobody belongs to it, there are no membership rolls. So you cannot prove you do not belong to it.
- If you have shown up to a protest, if you have been in a picture showing you were near a protest, if you have, like me, offered first aid at a political demonstration or shown up as clergy support or carried a sign or made a Facebook post or LIKED a post saying you're against fascism, you could be accused of being a "member of Antifa," and you can't prove it's not true.
- If this measure to declare "Antifa" "domestic terrorists" passes, that means you and I can be arrested and prosecuted as "domestic terrorists." No, really, you too.
- We passed a bunch of laws and rulings back in 2002 or so declaring that accused terrorists don't get due process, and can be held indefinitely without trial, tortured, and so on.
- The Trump administration also just declared that they're opening up the death penalty for federal crimes, like terrorism, for the first time in years.
- We have a whole bunch of new for-profit detention camps for holding people in indefinitely without trial, where people are dying right now from nightmarish conditions.
- ICE is running around right now, without badges or uniforms or warrants, disappearing people--including US citizens--and locking them up, and fully half their agents belong to a Facebook group where they shared racist jokes, bragged about the violence they'd done to the subhuman animals they're locking up, and talked about how they wanted to assault and rape political figures they don't like.
- This is a license to lock up and execute political dissenters and community organizers without due process and the pieces have all been put in place to use it.
- We are running out of time to stop this train.
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Heads up Portland on the weekend of 17th. White power v. Antifa expected. [View all]
Grasswire2
Aug 2019
OP
I think of the violent ones like the anarchists that pretend they care about capitalism
AJT
Aug 2019
#39
They are a bag if desructive @$$holes. They did this without any counter protest groups.
CentralMass
Aug 2019
#25
Shouldn't that make you happy that they didn't include the "peaceful" protesters?
Downtown Hound
Aug 2019
#27
There were peaceful protesters at that anti tRump rally in November of 2016 and that zmay Day
CentralMass
Aug 2019
#31
A violent destructive @$$hole who's intent is to commit destruction of property and personal imjury
CentralMass
Aug 2019
#38
They've never hurt anybody that wasn't, in some way, shape, or form, trying to hurt others
Downtown Hound
Aug 2019
#41
I was fighting the Bush administration and their fascist invasion of Iraq
Downtown Hound
Aug 2019
#92
Not a whole lot you can do about it without trampling the constitution. n/t
Downtown Hound
Aug 2019
#14
If the government can't, could the venues and surrounding businesses refuse them?
Initech
Aug 2019
#36
Counter advice: go downtown en masse. Own your city. Don't give it to out-of-town Fascists.
maxsolomon
Aug 2019
#7
Then you have no business telling people to go downtown when these @$$hole are planning to riot.
CentralMass
Aug 2019
#28
I've been to enough of these marches to know that if you want to avoid trouble, you can
Downtown Hound
Aug 2019
#48
I agree. I've been to a couple in the past year and a half: one in Denver and one in
KPN
Aug 2019
#75
When we fear even expressing disapproval of fascism, then fascism has won.
MarvinGardens
Aug 2019
#53
Playing right into the RW agenda and going to get the rest of us totally screwed.
Crunchy Frog
Aug 2019
#54
also, there are multiple closings of sections of the freeways and streets...
Grasswire2
Aug 2019
#59
Just check that link for freeway closings and delays if you need to use freeways on East side. nt
Grasswire2
Aug 2019
#61
Portland should stop these un-American white power Nazis.The USA in the past shot those pos
rockfordfile
Aug 2019
#80