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Nevermypresident

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38. Do we dare hope that

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:53 PM

Sep 2019

a) the facts of the incident become public (whistleblower identity remains confidential)
b) that this will be the straw that breaks the conman's back?

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**Breaking** Trump's communications w foreign leader part of controversial whistleblower complaint [View all] hlthe2b Sep 2019 OP

Paging Lindsey Graham Freethinker65 Sep 2019 #1

Honestly, is there any amount of apparent traitorous behavior they won't excuse? hlthe2b Sep 2019 #2

Apparently not. Treason is a profitable endeavor... dchill Sep 2019 #84

He didn't get DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #127

Lip service - Lindsey's one talent. sandensea Sep 2019 #143

Betting on Putin. TruckFump Sep 2019 #3

Yes, that's a good bet. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #4

Pretty made in the shade. TruckFump Sep 2019 #5

It's Putty boy for sure. triron Sep 2019 #82

could also be Madman Bone Saw, for the money Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #87

The Saudis are holding the "note" saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #129

maybe he promised MBS we'd take Iran after fake attack on refinery Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #130

Good bet ck4829 Sep 2019 #91

He most probably owes Putin more than the 2016 election Perseus Sep 2019 #138

Only one way to put it... TruckFump Sep 2019 #140

This is bad. It's gotta be Putin. gldstwmn Sep 2019 #6

Either putin or the Saudi prince who murdered Khashoggi. nt ecstatic Sep 2019 #19

Agree. SayItLoud Sep 2019 #24

That is my guess too. world wide wally Sep 2019 #36

holy shit. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2019 #66

Not all the armies - just the nukes. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #139

The interpreter? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #65

Might as well assume that Trump explicitly pledged allegiance to Putin... Girard442 Sep 2019 #7

Trump, being asked to PROVE something? SergeStorms Sep 2019 #31

Indeed ck4829 Sep 2019 #98

Heads up tomorrow!! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #8

*MORE** hlthe2b Sep 2019 #9

**THIS is a bombshell!! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #12

More has to leak... even if the IG only speaks to Schiff's committee in private hlthe2b Sep 2019 #14

+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #16

One possibility Desert grandma Sep 2019 #47

Yep. I bet he assured Putin he would run out the clock Ilsa Sep 2019 #70

Everyone is saying Putin. Nyet. Its Kim GusBob Sep 2019 #68

Or, promised him the U.S. would pull its military from South Korea... LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #103

Or he would "take care of it" regarding... lame54 Sep 2019 #115

Good to know ck4829 Sep 2019 #92

What good are systems superpatriotman Sep 2019 #10

THIS IS A HUGE STORY ritapria Sep 2019 #11

It absolutely is ck4829 Sep 2019 #99

This matter must be fully fuck investigated. Nt BootinUp Sep 2019 #13

trump the traitor has to go. ecstatic Sep 2019 #15

GREAT news! bluestarone Sep 2019 #17

Is it treason yet? gldstwmn Sep 2019 #18

Yes. mtngirl47 Sep 2019 #44

Yes ck4829 Sep 2019 #97

We're not at war zipplewrath Sep 2019 #145

Rachel Maddow discussing NOW hlthe2b Sep 2019 #20

Seems this is a huge story Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #21

It surely ought to be. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #23

It needs to be even bigger ck4829 Sep 2019 #93

and the acting DNI head's only excuse for not turning it over Takket Sep 2019 #22

Everyone is "acting" in Trump's administration. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #28

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #39

O'Donnell just read line saying the whistleblower act is not subject to judicial review. muntrv Sep 2019 #67

I've been eerily calm today, waiting on a bombshell story...yep, here it is Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #25

Gotta' be Putin. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #26

This is HUGE malaise Sep 2019 #27

Did you hear Rachel's segment with Carol Leonig (spp?) from WAPO? hlthe2b Sep 2019 #29

My jaw dropped malaise Sep 2019 #30

"stunned incredulity" ---- can I use that for a song title? panader0 Sep 2019 #64

Sure - I stole it from a cricket commentator malaise Sep 2019 #88

Do we dare hope that Nevermypresident Sep 2019 #38

Which foreign leader was he making a "promise" to? kentuck Sep 2019 #32

What power is there to use. Congress's only power is through the courts; ancianita Sep 2019 #122

And of course, Seth Abramson is on it--his full thread (thus far) hlthe2b Sep 2019 #33

If the DNI had followed the Standard Protocol HiloHatti Sep 2019 #34

If reputable news outlets already know this much... W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #35

Fear of being scammed like Dan Rather...N/T flotsam Sep 2019 #81

good point. stopdiggin Sep 2019 #131

Hopefully they will ck4829 Sep 2019 #94

t-rump and the republicans are a danger Iliyah Sep 2019 #37

Wow Gothmog Sep 2019 #40

Remember the spy extracted to the US & subsequently doxxed? That Putin desperately WANTS? hlthe2b Sep 2019 #41

Yep. dalton99a Sep 2019 #49

Trump promising Putin the spy in exchange for... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #62

Trump DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #132

Do you mean.... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #141

Horrific indeed ck4829 Sep 2019 #100

This. nt GreenEyedLefty Sep 2019 #120

Putin or MBS or Kim Jong Un... BadgerMom Sep 2019 #42

the GOP has been working for decades to establish a bullet proof infrastructure to protect their yaesu Sep 2019 #43

I'm thinking THIS could bluestarone Sep 2019 #45

Lawrence O'Donnell about to cover too and going over the law... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #46

Now the whistleblower, according to law, can go directly with the docs to Congress, once the ancianita Sep 2019 #50

L.O. has a panel of top intel community experts in discussion. oasis Sep 2019 #60

Good timing to begin the impeachment proceedings. world wide wally Sep 2019 #48

My guess is that it was Putin as per the following: Botany Sep 2019 #51

Yep. Remote hacking. They've got the infrastructure to do this. ancianita Sep 2019 #52

And just by chance the voting machines were made with electronic backdoors that allowed ... Botany Sep 2019 #56

Yes, and just by chance MF45 is visiting all the blue states, and will over time be able to ancianita Sep 2019 #59

And yet the exit polls had HRC winning those states too. Botany Sep 2019 #69

Yes. And Trump's not worried about those states right now. He's in the harder terrain, like CA. ancianita Sep 2019 #74

Mueller said publicly that all levels of cyber attacks are going on "right now." Could the ancianita Sep 2019 #63

Mueller resigned in late May, 2019. Webhead Sep 2019 #119

Thanks. Welp, the whistleblower is either in the FBI or intel, then. My guess is the FBI. ancianita Sep 2019 #128

This isn't DENVERPOPS Sep 2019 #133

Even before that the GOP and part of the CIA had been working on manipulation of electronic .... Botany Sep 2019 #136

what are they using? Maybe... reACTIONary Sep 2019 #89

imagine how bad this is.... Takket Sep 2019 #53

Then what. I'm clueless about what the nation could do with it. He's betting noone can stop ancianita Sep 2019 #113

tRump and the conservanazis have ignored the rule of law. TxVietVet Sep 2019 #54

Only 3 MFM008 Sep 2019 #55

Yeah, this seems to be a truly 'chilling' thing the whistle-blower came upon. LenaBaby61 Sep 2019 #57

Not from where we stand it won't ck4829 Sep 2019 #96

I suspect this bombshell report is only the tip of the iceberg. The depth Enoki33 Sep 2019 #58

100% I will remember your name. Enoki, as a conduit of truth. Doodley Sep 2019 #78

You know it ck4829 Sep 2019 #95

Was it a promise to kill someone? EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #61

K&R Fan of Da Bearse Sep 2019 #71

Why doesn't the whistleblower secretly tell Schiff all about the call? Webhead Sep 2019 #72

Intel is listening and the legal whistleblower protections go out the window. The whistleblower ancianita Sep 2019 #75

Thanks for your reply, but... Webhead Sep 2019 #108

What could happen to the whistleblower if s/he goes to Schiff on the QT? ancianita Sep 2019 #112

Lawrence Tribe Tweeted that the Whistleblower... Webhead Sep 2019 #117

The IG meeting with Schiff is over. This is so urgent that Schiff will act on this NEXT WEEK. ancianita Sep 2019 #125

He knows Trump is a mobster, protected by dark forces that would kill if needed. Doodley Sep 2019 #77

Trump doesn't need dark forces to kill for him! Webhead Sep 2019 #124

Trump promised to deliver the US to Putin on a silver platter. mudstump Sep 2019 #73

The most shocking revelation is that Trump only made an improper promise to ONE foreign leader. Doodley Sep 2019 #76

That we know of. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #80

Someone needs to put that whistleblower in protective custody Horse with no Name Sep 2019 #79

I'll wait till the facts come out. I hope they do. dem4decades Sep 2019 #83

knr triron Sep 2019 #85

Kicksters jeffreyi Sep 2019 #86

K&R ck4829 Sep 2019 #90

The key to the story is from Abramson's comments..(see post 33 by....hlthe2b.... ) Stuart G Sep 2019 #101

Yes. Some on AM Joe are trying to diminish the seriousness by emphasizing Presdident can declassify hlthe2b Sep 2019 #102

You are correct and I agree with you totally... Stuart G Sep 2019 #105

Interesting timeline... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #104

And after that.... kentuck Sep 2019 #107

Damn interesting that Trump made sure Gordon or Sanner wouldn't succeed Coats, but Maguire muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #114

Interesting take from counterintelligence expert, Asha Rangappa hlthe2b Sep 2019 #106

Josh Marshall (TPM) brings up several good points: hlthe2b Sep 2019 #109

"One former official said the communication was a phone call." DFW Sep 2019 #110

Praying for delicious irony that the call was on Dump's personal, unauthorized phone flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #126

I'll take "I promise not to interfere when you occupy Ukraine" for $500, Alex. COLGATE4 Sep 2019 #111

2 Twitter posts that focus the issues involved bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #116

After just listening to Schiff, I'm even more worried. According to him, the matter has pretty much Vinca Sep 2019 #118

You should find and watch last night's Lawrence O'Donnell panel. This law was written specifically hlthe2b Sep 2019 #121

NEW: The whistleblower is being represented by Andrew P. Bakaj, a former CIA officer. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #123

He got away with it under the FISA warrant in 2016 ffr Sep 2019 #134

Lawrence Tribe on the only legal remedy for recalcitrant IG and DNI: hlthe2b Sep 2019 #135

im sick and tired of the administration ignoring the law rdking647 Sep 2019 #137

We already knew about that about a month ago Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #142

Remember Nixon monkey wrenched the peace talks to get elected. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #144

Link to TODAY'S NEW reporting: hlthe2b Sep 2019 #146