Nobody is doing that. (Reply #48) - Democratic Underground

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Mon Sep 14, 2020, 07:59 AM

48. Nobody is doing that.

And here it goes... cue the anti-Bernie rants

Nobody is doing that. But I can tell you that what we're hearing from that camp is clearly anti-Biden and a backhanded effort to subvert the Biden campaign. ONLY the winner gets to make decisions on how to run the campaign and who to include.

Predictable outrage to ensue.

It's not as though he deserves praise for trying to create division, suspicion, distrust and resentment.

What useful purpose does it serve? His "advice" was unsolicited and inappropriate. Biden's campaign and the party had ALREADY given the Sanders campaign every reasonable consideration and accommodation. Negotiations and compromises were made in good faith. Bernie already participated. That part is OVER now. OVER! Biden doesn't need any former rivals "advising" him how to run his campaign.

This is just another example of how people are oddly willing to do and say things that create an atmosphere of fear and hopelessness and negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

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202 replies	Author	Time	Post
This is going to get a lot of blow back, but it needs to be said! [View all]	imanamerican63	Sep 2020	OP
I agree .	LSFL	Sep 2020	#1
AMEN!	DDySiegs	Sep 2020	#8
That image is etched into my brain	PatSeg	Sep 2020	#56
Not only that	DownriverDem	Sep 2020	#67
They were suffering before Trump	Doremus	Sep 2020	#102
Oh yes we do understand that	DownriverDem	Sep 2020	#148
He is dedicated to a very progressive vision for America	Amishman	Sep 2020	#84
The most progressive platform in history, as was the 2016 platform.	betsuni	Sep 2020	#89
If Sen. Sanders wants those changes to happen he should work towards getting Democrats elected	csziggy	Sep 2020	#95
If he wanted more influence on the Democratic party, being a...	3catwoman3	Sep 2020	#155
So you think he's going to the press out of frustration at Biden's popularity? (nt)	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#200
Well put. I had a similar reaction. We don't need division in the party right now.	Arkansas Granny	Sep 2020	#2
No need to help Trump, Bernie!	BlueJac	Sep 2020	#3
What exactly does Bernie know about winning a presidential campaign? n/t	yankeepants	Sep 2020	#4
Well now, that's a great point! I'm sure Joe & Kamala have access to plenty of excellent	Illumination	Sep 2020	#32
Yes, advisors who aren't trying to build their own public brand, but are dedicated to defeating DT.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#58
Well said ehrnst!	Illumination	Sep 2020	#68
Some enterprising reporter should ask that	Cha	Sep 2020	#128
indeed. what exactly?	stopdiggin	Sep 2020	#157
And here it goes... cue the anti-Bernie rants	luv2fly	Sep 2020	#5
I am not against Bernie!	imanamerican63	Sep 2020	#6
... or que the stupid rationalizing of hurtful things that are said against Biden	uponit7771	Sep 2020	#9
Hey	DownriverDem	Sep 2020	#69
Maybe the anti-bernie rants are called for maybe it's time to end the protectionism regarding bernie	Fullduplexxx	Sep 2020	#10
LOL, DU is largely anti-Bernie	Sympthsical	Sep 2020	#78
"Having a go at Bernie is practically the national sport here."	BComplex	Sep 2020	#94
But he is not rallying the millenials	dansolo	Sep 2020	#111
What you fail to consider is that Bernie is trying to reach the millennials who are ALREADY against	Doremus	Sep 2020	#115
You are 1000% correct	LiberalLovinLug	Sep 2020	#139
Yes exactly this	luv2fly	Sep 2020	#142
Totally agree. Thanks for pointing all this out.	BComplex	Sep 2020	#152
every vote picked up	stopdiggin	Sep 2020	#162
+1	progressoid	Sep 2020	#153
Post removed	Post removed	Sep 2020	#117
Wow, what garbage	SophieJean	Sep 2020	#170
Thank You. That needed to be said	LiberalLovinLug	Sep 2020	#182
" right-wing leaning, corporate owned Democrats will never be able to represent their interests."	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#202
"DU is largely anti-Bernie"	sheshe2	Sep 2020	#143
I only know what I see	Sympthsical	Sep 2020	#144
Hmmm	sheshe2	Sep 2020	#150
If you're going to do that thing where you put words in my mouth	Sympthsical	Sep 2020	#154
"Millennials just want free stuff!" Seen it so many times.	stopdiggin	Sep 2020	#163
I was here for the grand purge of 2016.	rwsanders	Sep 2020	#169
This is true. nt	Doremus	Sep 2020	#181
Its simply anit-idiocy at this point.	oldsoftie	Sep 2020	#16
Sorry, but people are tired of Bernie	kcr	Sep 2020	#38
Why shouldn't Democrats on Democratic Underground object to baseless attacks on	betsuni	Sep 2020	#43
+1000.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#62
Nobody is doing that.	NurseJackie	Sep 2020	#48
Amen!	PatSeg	Sep 2020	#59
Yep.	Baked Potato	Sep 2020	#82
this	llashram	Sep 2020	#114
He is not above criticism, despite what many claim.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#54
So Bernie can criticize our nominee, but can't ever	mzmolly	Sep 2020	#63
That's something that's directly from the Michael Moore playbook...	NurseJackie	Sep 2020	#71
True!	mzmolly	Sep 2020	#76
Wonder if there will be a book.	betsuni	Sep 2020	#72
Did Bernie not say what he said?	treestar	Sep 2020	#74
This message was self-deleted by its author	treestar	Sep 2020	#75
I am outraged that Bernie would do this in such an important election...Trump must lose and	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#86
+1	betsuni	Sep 2020	#96
Thanks.	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#113
It's ego and vanity.	NurseJackie	Sep 2020	#118
Yes, You are correct. And the sad truth is that his time in the spotlight is over.	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#186
No this won't get blow back you can bet that	jimlup	Sep 2020	#7
Wow, that's a lot of exclamation points for so early in the morning!	cwydro	Sep 2020	#11
Maybe listening more to him and AOC would	doc03	Sep 2020	#12
There is that, but.....	Sherman A1	Sep 2020	#55
It is a difficult balancing act	PatSeg	Sep 2020	#65
Young voters didn't turn out for Sanders why would we shift our campaign to emphasize winning such	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#88
You may be...	Mike Nelson	Sep 2020	#13
More than 'iffy' voters. 'lections are won in the middle.	empedocles	Sep 2020	#19
You'll probably be flamed for the post. No dissent allowed anymore	oldsoftie	Sep 2020	#14
Biden's motto: Never promise anything you can't deliver.	betsuni	Sep 2020	#15
The GOP doesn't have a "platform," other than fealty to Trump.	sop	Sep 2020	#22
Yes, people don't like Republican policies. They're manipulated by racism and wedge issues	betsuni	Sep 2020	#28
Exactly!	mzmolly	Sep 2020	#77
People don't vote for president because of the party platform	progressoid	Sep 2020	#159
But Bernie thinks everything's about policy. If you have the right progressive	betsuni	Sep 2020	#164
Totally agree.	redstatebluegirl	Sep 2020	#17
I know this for a fact,	gab13by13	Sep 2020	#18
I have to say	LittleGirl	Sep 2020	#20
just goes to show how young America is.. we are still growing	samnsara	Sep 2020	#29
Does one ir two party win most of the time in switzerland?	SlogginThroughIt	Sep 2020	#45
There is a Parliament type of government here	LittleGirl	Sep 2020	#91
If we rewrote the constitution today	plimsoll	Sep 2020	#50
Welcome to Du	LittleGirl	Sep 2020	#87
K & R	Duppers	Sep 2020	#21
I've had enough of Bernie.	flamin lib	Sep 2020	#23
and where was he prior to the 2015?	samnsara	Sep 2020	#27
For some reason he thought usual Democratic policies were new and his ideas.	betsuni	Sep 2020	#40
Bernie's appeal was that he appeared more sincere than other politicians...	Lucky Luciano	Sep 2020	#108
Ever heard of seven minute abs?	betsuni	Sep 2020	#109
Right.	LiberalLovinLug	Sep 2020	#184
Why would you get blow back on this???	Proximate Centurion	Sep 2020	#24
Welcome to DU	niyad	Sep 2020	#64
More focus on jobs, wages and health care would be a good thing.	Klaralven	Sep 2020	#25
I object to both...the messenger is not helping and it takes more than policy to	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#90
I fail to see any lack of focus on those topics by Biden and other top Dems.	LanternWaste	Sep 2020	#123
I don't think they are getting through if they are focusing on those topics	Klaralven	Sep 2020	#126
i thought that very thing when i heard it mentioned on Joe this am..	samnsara	Sep 2020	#26
I will never get over 16 either. I tolerate Sanders.	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#92
If Biden does "campaign with AOC," Trump will just use it in red and swing states to prove Joe is	sop	Sep 2020	#30
The older generations are still eager to vote.	Mariana	Sep 2020	#79
In a war, it's generally bad practice ...	GeorgeGist	Sep 2020	#31
Yes, consulting privately with the leader is more effective, but doesn't serve self promotion. (nt)	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#61
He must be bored with the Senate. I wonder why he doesn't work on a Medicare for All BIll	JI7	Sep 2020	#33
Or if he's bored join the Democratic Party and offer to help with the campaign	mdbl	Sep 2020	#35
The Only Thing Anybody Wants Or Needs From 'Bernie' Just Now, Sir	The Magistrate	Sep 2020	#34
Yes!	Cha	Sep 2020	#133
So many exclamation points, makes me dizzy 😵	secondwind	Sep 2020	#36
Shut up Bernie, Trump is our problem not Biden.	katmondoo	Sep 2020	#37
The Independent Senator from Vermont	MyNameGoesHere	Sep 2020	#39
Here's Bernie addressing this.	GOPBasher	Sep 2020	#41
Sounds good to me. Not at all divisive..like this OP	mountain grammy	Sep 2020	#70
If they had been public statements, I would agree.	Mister Ed	Sep 2020	#42
It was convenient for the OP to leave that context out. nt.	Mariana	Sep 2020	#80
There is nothing convenient to what I said!	imanamerican63	Sep 2020	#127
leaked by whom? and to what purpose?	stopdiggin	Sep 2020	#165
There are those who wish to see Democratic disunity...	Mister Ed	Sep 2020	#175
Please Bernie	Rebl2	Sep 2020	#44
Amen. Shut the hell up, Bernie. (nt)	Paladin	Sep 2020	#46
In normal times, would agree 100% ..but we have a serious life threatening monster	Laura PourMeADrink	Sep 2020	#47
Is the Democratic party a positive and progressive entity or not?	jaxexpat	Sep 2020	#49
Yes, I feel the same about Bernie that I do Michael Moore. They both like to take swings to put	flying_wahini	Sep 2020	#51
You mean the Michael Moore that was correct?	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#146
No	Willto	Sep 2020	#171
Do you have evidence he always predicts them to lose?	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#177
"Us not Me..." he says.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#52
No blow back from me	PatSeg	Sep 2020	#53
Totally agree in swing state of Iowa	JT45242	Sep 2020	#57
I'm sure Joe would take Bernie's calls.	lpbk2713	Sep 2020	#60
Why Bernie Isn't the Nominee	Roy Rolling	Sep 2020	#66
TY!	Cha	Sep 2020	#132
Not from me	treestar	Sep 2020	#73
No. This didn't need to be said.	notinkansas	Sep 2020	#81
It's not true that the 2016 and 2020 Democratic nominees were and are only	betsuni	Sep 2020	#83
Lol.	MrsCoffee	Sep 2020	#97
+1	betsuni	Sep 2020	#100
Suggestions made in private are not drama	DFW	Sep 2020	#103
Suggestions/opinions do not need to be state secrets.	notinkansas	Sep 2020	#104
There are a lot of people,	progressoid	Sep 2020	#160
Not this time. It is too important to take Trump out.	Demsrule86	Sep 2020	#85
Let's just pretend that Biden has got this and nothing different needs to be done.	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#93
Why is it that 100% of these "I'm really gonna get it for this one" threads...	melman	Sep 2020	#98
Sorry for all your blowback.	aidbo	Sep 2020	#99
Sanders being Sanders. He cannot get past his own ego for the sake of the nation.	LizBeth	Sep 2020	#101
+1 K&R	onetexan	Sep 2020	#105
And, the Planet.	Cha	Sep 2020	#135
About 50 more days	Cosmo Blues	Sep 2020	#106
Bernie needs to remember that he lost ...	murielm99	Sep 2020	#107
You know Biden has more than one home, right?	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#147
That is the only thing you took from my reply?	murielm99	Sep 2020	#166
So I have to take just specifically what you want?	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#176
Whataboutism.	murielm99	Sep 2020	#178
It's not whataboutism.	Cuthbert Allgood	Sep 2020	#179
Who is Bernie to speak for progressive Democrats	murielm99	Sep 2020	#180
He's not "making sure progressive Dems feel included", he's lecturing Biden on how to run a....	George II	Sep 2020	#195
I agree.	Ilsa	Sep 2020	#110
That's the Problem W/Bernie - No Matter How Much We Accommodate Him It's Never Enough	Indykatie	Sep 2020	#112
Come on, Bernie!!	marieo1	Sep 2020	#116
Well said!! I totally agree!!	Aviation91	Sep 2020	#119
Agree!	WinstonSmith4740	Sep 2020	#120
Bernie's ego is out of control and his judgment is bad,	ecstatic	Sep 2020	#121
Agree. If he's got "input," he should give it to Biden personally, not through media.	ancianita	Sep 2020	#122
No blowback from me.	warmfeet	Sep 2020	#124
Get over it.	Sucha NastyWoman	Sep 2020	#125
Tell that to Senator Sanders.	Cha	Sep 2020	#134
Sanders need to be united not divisive.	McCamy Taylor	Sep 2020	#129
Agreed	MustLoveBeagles	Sep 2020	#130
Russian influence?	yuiyoshida	Sep 2020	#131
No it didn't need to be said, as it's kinda dumb	Tarc	Sep 2020	#136
Agree 100%	tiptonic	Sep 2020	#137
Bernie's not doing us any favors with divisive talk now.	NoRoadUntravelled	Sep 2020	#138
That is The Prime Directive.	UserNotFound	Sep 2020	#140
NO. Bernie is not trying to treat the party apart.	garybeck	Sep 2020	#141
Sanders may not be trying to "treat" the party apart	stopdiggin	Sep 2020	#168
I agree with you 100%.	Mickju	Sep 2020	#145
'This is going to get a lot of blow back'	Celerity	Sep 2020	#149
Amen.	SergeStorms	Sep 2020	#151
He's speaking to an existing fire	BainsBane	Sep 2020	#156
there's no reason it should start an internal fire, provided we focus our fire where it belongs:	fishwax	Sep 2020	#158
I disagree.	Richard58	Sep 2020	#161
trump really wanted to run against sanders and socialism	Gothmog	Sep 2020	#187
Trump was salivating at the thought.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#198
I fear that trump would be ahead of sanders if sanders was the nominee	Gothmog	Sep 2020	#199
You know perfectly well that's not true.	NurseJackie	Sep 2020	#189
+1000!	sheshe2	Sep 2020	#193
Did you have a nice sleep?	still_one	Sep 2020	#190
If it's the obvious why does it need to be pointed out? Biden ran a very successful campaign....	George II	Sep 2020	#191
Hm.	sheshe2	Sep 2020	#194
Four of our candidates rated higher than Sanders - Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, and Booker.	George II	Sep 2020	#196
Yes they did.	sheshe2	Sep 2020	#197
Tear it in half?	rwsanders	Sep 2020	#167
K&R n/t	denbot	Sep 2020	#172
I think the comments were supposed to be private	JonLP24	Sep 2020	#173
Welcome to Washington...	brooklynite	Sep 2020	#183
Or it was intended to be leaked to the press. That does happen.	ehrnst	Sep 2020	#201
Bernie	rebe303	Sep 2020	#174
I agree with the OP	Gothmog	Sep 2020	#185
Agreed	Dem2	Sep 2020	#188
Totally agree! Your OP got its 200th REC from me. n/t	Different Drummer	Sep 2020	#192

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