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andym

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11. His tax cheating is besides the point-- he is and has been bleeding money like crazy for 15 years

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:35 PM

Sep 2020

What kind of successful businessman does that? He's not filthy rich, but rather deeply in debt (>$400M), a loser, who is trying to bail his businesses out by feeding them federal business, and delaying paying back his loans by being President--hoping to get special treatment from his lenders no doubt.

Why is he not using his own money on ads with his campaign ? Likely he has none.

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The argument I'm getting re his taxes HELP! [View all] Bluesaph Sep 2020 OP

if trump lied on any government form...thats is a felony samnsara Sep 2020 #1

A lawyer would say that it's illegal to understate your income on your taxes Yavin4 Sep 2020 #2

Exactly. TruckFump Sep 2020 #3

Yes. mzmolly Sep 2020 #5

Do we have evidence of that data point yet? Arazi Sep 2020 #6

Yes, TRMS did nearly half show on what assests Trump inflated to get loans (link) uponit7771 Sep 2020 #15

Cohen provided Trump's version of things, not legal documents Arazi Sep 2020 #45

That's still evidence in an investigation and TRMS showed returns and or statements uponit7771 Sep 2020 #48

Cohen testified under oath to Congress that he prepared documents meadowlander Sep 2020 #32

Thanks. That kind of testimony is better evidence Arazi Sep 2020 #46

Yes PatSeg Sep 2020 #50

He's being audited over the 72.9 million mzmolly Sep 2020 #4

That One Is Actually Pretty Clear, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2020 #27

I hope mzmolly Sep 2020 #29

So if your brother did the same thing on his taxes and got caught and arrested for kimbutgar Sep 2020 #7

it is not illegal to use legal loopholes Fresh_Start Sep 2020 #8

In the last 15 years trump paid more for sex texasfiddler Sep 2020 #9

Off the top of my head: grumpyduck Sep 2020 #10

His tax cheating is besides the point-- he is and has been bleeding money like crazy for 15 years andym Sep 2020 #11

Ask your brother if he's paying more or less tax uncle ray Sep 2020 #12

I do believe it's illegal to pay your child to lower your tax burden Arazi Sep 2020 #13

try this? Moostache Sep 2020 #14

We are Irish twins Bluesaph Sep 2020 #40

Ask, what would your response be if these were Biden's taxes. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2020 #16

That's the killer argument. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #36

Your brother has himself identified the point that invalidates his argument. better Sep 2020 #17

???? I don't think we report our assets on our income tax. Do others. Yes, if we... LAS14 Sep 2020 #43

Yes, for business taxes, at least, you do report assets. better Sep 2020 #55

Dear Brother: he took money from foreign government officials MagickMuffin Sep 2020 #18

His severe and repetitive tax losses indicate that he has a poor balance sheet. LuckyCharms Sep 2020 #19

+1 Negative cashflow for years and years on his tax returns means either: lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #39

If he's still on the fence by now, he's voting for Trump but just can't admit it to anyone. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #20

This Arazi Sep 2020 #47

Trump is a security risk and a poor businessman Bad Thoughts Sep 2020 #21

His debts outweigh his assets...that's why he doesn't pay taxes. Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #22

He isn't rich. He's broke. In fact he's $410,000,000 in debt SoonerPride Sep 2020 #23

I hears $421 million. But who's counting? lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #41

...none of these arguments hit the problems.... Sancho Sep 2020 #24

+1,000,000 myccrider Sep 2020 #58

Most of that is true, except for the rich part. But trump is still a conman and loser. Hoyt Sep 2020 #25

Good Lord greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #26

Your brother (if he exists) must be glued LisaL Sep 2020 #28

I think this is it! Bluesaph Sep 2020 #34

If your brother is still on the fence PatSeg Sep 2020 #56

+1 honest.abe Sep 2020 #42

While tax avoidance is legal vlyons Sep 2020 #30

The faithful are going to excuse all of it matt819 Sep 2020 #31

Easy! Loan apps show he's making lots of money and properties are worth exorbitant amounts Roland99 Sep 2020 #33

If they were just legal loopholes, every billionaire would be paying only $750 in income taxes. W_HAMILTON Sep 2020 #35

What kind of self-proclaimed billionaire (without provable evidence) steals money from his own CCC*? Lock him up. Sep 2020 #37

nothing suggest that trump taxes did NOT take full advantage of all the loopholes designed beachbumbob Sep 2020 #38

Tell him it can't be both. Statistical Sep 2020 #44

Take him back to George Washington's words in his farewell address. GoneOffShore Sep 2020 #49

Just stop arguing... lame54 Sep 2020 #51

it is immoral and I can't look up to an immoral leader. He's worth 10B dollars and he is a drain Hamlette Sep 2020 #52

On the fence? Bullsh*t! elias7 Sep 2020 #53

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society." Kid Berwyn Sep 2020 #54

He is raiding the US Treasury to pay off his debt StClone Sep 2020 #57