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44. "superbly" - I'm not talking style, am talking ironclad language.

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 05:52 PM

Oct 2020

By ironclad I mean our Lib agenda policies expressed in Constitutional terms. Any issue can be done up that way.

If we just stay focused on numbers of justices and senate majority we're boxed in and screwed.

I'm talking strategy dealing with the prevailing adverse conditions of being outnumbered on those two fronts.

But aw well, hate to resort to religious imagery but here and hear: prophet and wilderness.

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Repugs may lose the WH, Senate and House, but they have 6-3 at the Supreme Court, and they will [View all] OnDoutside Oct 2020 OP

Biden needs to increase the SCOTUS to gopiscrap Oct 2020 #1

I like your thinking ;) OnDoutside Oct 2020 #16

Increasing the court by 2 to restore the taken seats. bottomofthehill Oct 2020 #2

The only problem is that you won't overturn Citizens United or OnDoutside Oct 2020 #18

I feel the same. Adding 2 to remedy their packing, and expanding moonscape Oct 2020 #40

3 to restore the seats stolen.. And 3 for seats had we been in power Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #64

Somebody had an idea for a 15-member SCOTUS that sounded fair: 5 Democrats, 5 republicans, catbyte Oct 2020 #3

Pete Buttigieg had that idea Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #4

Thank you! I just couldn't remember who suggested it. catbyte Oct 2020 #5

👍 Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #7

I'd love to hear who we're going to find those last five... COLGATE4 Oct 2020 #33

Another idea to deal with a now politicized judiciary- to over turn law a 7-2 majority required Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #6

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #14

✔️ LakeArenal Oct 2020 #15

But how will that deal with the next 4 years ? The American people OnDoutside Oct 2020 #21

Reduce SCOTUS to 6, the ORIGINAL size ... GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #8

LOL. That's a move that would take the repubs totally by surprise! CrispyQ Oct 2020 #19

It definitely would!!! OnDoutside Oct 2020 #22

Not possible. StarfishSaver Oct 2020 #62

Somethng closer to Mayor Pete's idea (5,5,5) aeromanKC Oct 2020 #9

It's a good idea, however you know what the RWNJs would do is OnDoutside Oct 2020 #11

My Preference Would Be To Pass New Laws Me. Oct 2020 #10

Yes! FM123 Oct 2020 #13

Right now this might be the best solution Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #65

The issue with that is Republican lawyers would apply for stays OnDoutside Oct 2020 #23

They Will Always Try Me. Oct 2020 #24

100% agree that the public want to see these changes, but the Repug OnDoutside Oct 2020 #26

This exactly StarfishSaver Oct 2020 #63

It's the *WRITING*, not the *policy*!1 Since wingnuts claim no policy in SCotUS, UTUSN Oct 2020 #12

It won't stop them going to the courts, whether it's superbly written OnDoutside Oct 2020 #25

"superbly" - I'm not talking style, am talking ironclad language. UTUSN Oct 2020 #44

I'm talking the same but that won't stop them going to court to delay and hope to get a RW court. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #49

With all the lower courts plus SCotUS they *have* right wing courts now and years to come. UTUSN Oct 2020 #51

I agree but surely they can do both ? The Democratic Party took it's eye off the ball for a decade, OnDoutside Oct 2020 #53

Glad we understand each other. UTUSN Oct 2020 #55

For a while. But we must legislate the laws we want to have and enforce them. Boogiemack Oct 2020 #17

Exactly Demovictory9 Oct 2020 #20

SCOTUS MFM008 Oct 2020 #27

2 more only gets you to 6 to 5 though, that's not going to do much OnDoutside Oct 2020 #28

Impeach Kavenaugh and Amy for perjury and remove them from the SCOTUS. stopbush Oct 2020 #29

Impeaching is the easy part, dware Oct 2020 #31

It's an option, but I'm not sure how it would play at a time when Democrats will need to be OnDoutside Oct 2020 #32

Age or term limits should be introduced. Retire at 75, or after 25 years, whichever comes first. Fla Dem Oct 2020 #30

Thanks, they are great ideas. I would suggest an odd number, so that there is a greater chance of OnDoutside Oct 2020 #34

I think I addressed that by suggesting 9 judges would be selected to hear each case. Fla Dem Oct 2020 #46

Thanks. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #48

We have a backlog of cases in the lower courts.We need to expand the federal, Circuit court judges Arazi Oct 2020 #35

Exactly, it would be justifiable reason to reform and expand. I think speed is the key though. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #37

#2 Is From The R Playbook ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #36

There is certainly an argument to legislate and be damned, and then if Republicans obstruct in OnDoutside Oct 2020 #38

Have A Hundred Day Plan ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #42

Yes ! They can use all the legislation the House passed but McConnell wouldn't bring to the floor, OnDoutside Oct 2020 #45

If we eliminate the filibuster, Congress can change the size of the SC no problem. roamer65 Oct 2020 #39

Yes, that has to happen, and i think it was instructive that President Obama called for it, and as OnDoutside Oct 2020 #47

I'm fine with expanding the court to 13 (one for each federal judicial district) Volaris Oct 2020 #41

If we win the senate and presidency while retaining the house we must take immediate decisive action PTWB Oct 2020 #43

This is a moment in time to be decisive, and I hope Joe realises that. How many times have we heard OnDoutside Oct 2020 #50

Could have been prevented in 2016. MineralMan Oct 2020 #52

Don't be so hard on Hillary RandiFan1290 Oct 2020 #66

Things that need to change Meowmee Oct 2020 #54

As someone who live in a parliamentary system, the American system is pretty good, but the clear OnDoutside Oct 2020 #56

No, what I said needs to be done Meowmee Oct 2020 #57

Yes there are fatal flaws, but largely because breaking "norms" to win, isn't illegal. We have OnDoutside Oct 2020 #60

have to disagree Meowmee Oct 2020 #61

It would only be fatal if Trump wins. Yes there are flaws, but provided the Dems win as we hope, OnDoutside Oct 2020 #68

He was installed as prez due to those fatal flaws Meowmee Oct 2020 #69

If the Dems get the Presidency and Congress they can write laws over-turning Court Decisions. pfitz59 Oct 2020 #58

Ok, they're impeached. dware Oct 2020 #67

Kavanaugh's qualifications for being on the court were his star role in the Clinton investigation, struggle4progress Oct 2020 #59