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BumRushDaShow

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25. Yes except there were basically ONLY 2 in the Senate

Reply to In It to Win It (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 11, 2020, 03:27 PM

Nov 2020

--Baucus and Lieberman-- who made mincemeat out of the ACA. NOT the (implied "all" or "most" ) "Democrats".

I.e., the other 58 Democrats (and Indies like Sanders) weren't doing that.

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Does nobody remember that when it comes to the ACA... [View all] Cheezoholic Nov 2020 OP

I hear you and your frustration; plus, I share them. Outrageous! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #1

I remember MiniMe Nov 2020 #2

For those who don't remember what happened with the ACA, here is a walk down memory lane still_one Nov 2020 #3

Thanks. NT enough Nov 2020 #5

Thank you for that and to be clear.. Cheezoholic Nov 2020 #7

Thank-you. still_one Nov 2020 #9

People seem to forget this part In It to Win It Nov 2020 #8

And since those conservative Democrats were booted, we have been able to get nothing...we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #12

bart stupak Hyde Amendment fed dollars Cerridwen Nov 2020 #17

Yes - that was the final piece BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #21

Good post. Notably, Franken was illicitly kept from being seated Hortensis Nov 2020 #18

Don't forget this guy - BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #20

Lots of compromises were necessary to get something, but I think Hoyt Nov 2020 #4

I don't recall single payer being on the table. It would have never made it past the Senate In It to Win It Nov 2020 #6

It still won't be passed in the house...if we get the senate maybe a public option. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #11

I don't disagree In It to Win It Nov 2020 #13

It wasn't "through the Democrats". It was "couldn't get it through Lieberman" BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #22

Lieberman caucused with Democrats, so there I include Lieberman in "Democrats". In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24

Yes except there were basically ONLY 2 in the Senate BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #25

Those are facts that I do not argue. My position is broad. My only point is that we could not In It to Win It Nov 2020 #26

Yes I agree and that was unfortunate due to a pair of show-boaters BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #27

Yes, that's right. I don't know where the OP heard that. ehrnst Nov 2020 #15

It was -- as an OPTION. The ACA was not "basically single payer." Hortensis Nov 2020 #19

The ACA made America belive health care was a right...so I love it...but we need the Senate Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10

Welcome to DU greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #14

The penalty (mandate BS?) was $100 USD, that's it? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #16

It was never single payer. The votes were not there Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #23