He should, for the many excellent reasons already expressed here, be (Reply #163)

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Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:54 PM

Enoki33 (1,519 posts)

163. He should, for the many excellent reasons already expressed here, be

prosecuted. There is also another reason. tRump desperately needs continued Russian financial support. For him to get that he has to remain relevant to Putin, therefore he has to be able to continue his chaos vendetta against America. It is possible full exposure of his many crimes will diminish his capabilities to do so. Alternatively it may do the opposite. Tough call, even without the many other political ramifications. Also outside possibility Putin will solve it if he concludes there are huge geopolitical benefits for him. Putin is loyal only to people he can use.

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170 replies	Author	Time	Post
Don't prosecute Trump so the nation can heal. [View all]	TruckFump	Nov 2020	OP
I gave you your first rec, along with my total agreement!	abqtommy	Nov 2020	#1
Thank you!	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#4
I believe that one of the first things Biden should do is to create a ...	aggiesal	Nov 2020	#84
Exactly. As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction:	radius777	Nov 2020	#146
We won't be able to heal until he IS prosecuted!	Blue Owl	Nov 2020	#2
I agree TOTALLY!!!!	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#6
Let's not forget all our republican congress persons who coddled him,	KS Toronado	Nov 2020	#58
If they go after Trump without reminding people who enabled him they're missing dessert.	jaxexpat	Nov 2020	#155
Exactly!	PutGramaOnThePhone	Nov 2020	#39
Federal crimes will get a pardon (by Pence, probably) but...	Lock him up.	Nov 2020	#85
Even if he somehow gets pardoned for federal crimes, 70,000,000 voters and all FOX	TryLogic	Nov 2020	#101
Fully agreed. The House HAS to set up a Federal Crimes Commission to examine them all.	Lock him up.	Nov 2020	#108
BOOM!!! THIS!!! YES, I'm SHOUTING!!!	calimary	Nov 2020	#65
ALL OF THAT - plus.......	MyOwnPeace	Nov 2020	#72
Madame	bdamomma	Nov 2020	#120
Absitively and Posolutely!	calimary	Nov 2020	#129
With ya 100%.	notinkansas	Nov 2020	#143
Precisely! No healing without prosecutions! nt	Ilsa	Nov 2020	#94
Healing through prison	RANDYWILDMAN	Nov 2020	#3
Dubya already used up that get-out-of-jail card	Azathoth	Nov 2020	#5
The Iran-Contra criminals used their card also, and many of them resurfaced during Dim Sons reign.	SaintLouisBlues	Nov 2020	#26
Even Elliot Abrams is back	not fooled	Nov 2020	#30
Peanuts? No way.	tavernier	Nov 2020	#7
Cat food would actually be better for him than the shit he eats now.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Nov 2020	#14
No he needs to be exposed and the American people need to learn how much he sold this country	kimbutgar	Nov 2020	#8
Ford paid for pardoning Nixon by losing the 1976 election, but	The Velveteen Ocelot	Nov 2020	#9
I Agreed With Ford Completely	RobinA	Nov 2020	#169
Hear, hear.	Arkansas Granny	Nov 2020	#10
Not just him, Barr and all the rest of the criminal regime.	CanonRay	Nov 2020	#11
Thank YOU!	smirkymonkey	Nov 2020	#86
No, prosecute the heel.	Sneederbunk	Nov 2020	#12
Completely agree with your post, not the headline. Justice demands it!	c-rational	Nov 2020	#13
MAGAssholes will remain deplorable no matter what happens to Trump.	oasis	Nov 2020	#15
i'm very bitter about this.	barbtries	Nov 2020	#16
+1	Ferrets are Cool	Nov 2020	#18
Yep.	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#23
Exactly.	dflprincess	Nov 2020	#130
NO ONE is above the LAW	Ferrets are Cool	Nov 2020	#17
This message was self-deleted by its author	CatLady78	Nov 2020	#19
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chin music	Nov 2020	#148
This message was self-deleted by its author	CatLady78	Nov 2020	#149
There are a lot of suits that have been/will be filed at the state level.	MissMillie	Nov 2020	#20
I agree.	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#22
He has to be totally destroyed legally or he will be back in some way	doc03	Nov 2020	#21
The top hundreds	DENVERPOPS	Nov 2020	#127
+1000	Celerity	Nov 2020	#137
This is not Nixon. Nixon screwed with the election and his opponents. This pissant has...	TreasonousBastard	Nov 2020	#24
Also a pardon should be very specific	exboyfil	Nov 2020	#25
Nixon's underlings and vindictive traits infected the U.S. Government after he wasn't prosecuted.	WyattKansas	Nov 2020	#27
Case in point, Roger Stone -- one of several keystones	KPN	Nov 2020	#70
By not fully prosecuting trump it will make the American people trust this government less	duforsure	Nov 2020	#28
It is time to send a message....Nixon "ran a stop sign" compared to Trump!!!	ashredux	Nov 2020	#29
Where the fuck is this being reported?	Aviation Pro	Nov 2020	#31
He's going to leave office with a pardon for federal crimes	BannonsLiver	Nov 2020	#32
If he pardons himself, which, given his ego, is likely	intrepidity	Nov 2020	#57
I don't think that's the route he would go	BannonsLiver	Nov 2020	#60
I used to believe that. I'm lately more convinced of how deluded he is	intrepidity	Nov 2020	#64
I hope he does too but question whether he'll risk it in the end. Time will tell.	BannonsLiver	Nov 2020	#66
Somehow we have to hide all the pens & paper until	Dark n Stormy Knight	Nov 2020	#115
I think that would be more likely because	misanthrope	Nov 2020	#98
Yes exactly	BannonsLiver	Nov 2020	#112
Pardon himself is creative nonsense. If he tries it should be ignored.	TryLogic	Nov 2020	#107
Well said.	warmfeet	Nov 2020	#33
"You'll heal if you just don't drain that abcess!" Dangerously delusional thinking.	Crunchy Frog	Nov 2020	#34
prosecute for LEGAL crimes	stopdiggin	Nov 2020	#35
and that is precisely what investigations uncover	intrepidity	Nov 2020	#52
or precludes	stopdiggin	Nov 2020	#61
We're in agreement	intrepidity	Nov 2020	#68
Simply switch roles. Proceed at ludicrous speed.	NoMoreRepugs	Nov 2020	#36
And let's try to work with Mitch to move America forward.	JohnnyRingo	Nov 2020	#37
I guess I would have to say that every president in my lifetime	Mr.Bill	Nov 2020	#38
chump and the rethug party are a killing cancer on America	Leith	Nov 2020	#40
I will heal better if he goes to prison for his crimes.	ooky	Nov 2020	#41
I've been saying this for a long time.	cab67	Nov 2020	#42
Oh, hell no!	PirateRo	Nov 2020	#43
Let New York and Scotland have him.	KentuckyWoman	Nov 2020	#44
Yes, This	RobinA	Nov 2020	#170
Agree 100%. I'm still upset that war crimes charges weren't persued against GW Bush.	CaptainTruth	Nov 2020	#45
It is not (only) about justice. It's about uncovering the depth and details of what happened	intrepidity	Nov 2020	#46
IMO, there are and were so many in his Admin that should be criminally prosecuted.	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#51
He must be held accountable otherwise the rule of law is worthless.	Pepsidog	Nov 2020	#47
Investigate and prosecute	vlyons	Nov 2020	#48
If he is not prosecuted,	RexLipton	Nov 2020	#49
The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly	Nasruddin	Nov 2020	#50
If a person violates the law and is not punished, are their actions against the law?	LiberalArkie	Nov 2020	#53
Failure to follow through with exposing his crimes just paves the road for the next wannabe dictator	Midnight Writer	Nov 2020	#54
Count Every Legal Crime!	Richard D	Nov 2020	#55
Peanuts are way too tasty. He should be fed exactly what he doesn't like to eat in solitary	Illumination	Nov 2020	#56
Nope. Then we'd have every criminal racing to become a Republican leader to avoid justice.	gulliver	Nov 2020	#59
Credit to "Suicide Squad" - Put him in a hole and throw away the hole (n/t)	Moostache	Nov 2020	#62
We "moved on" after Nixon	wryter2000	Nov 2020	#63
If this is allowed to happen without consequences, our democracy is officially over.	Vinca	Nov 2020	#67
Absolutely Vinca	DeSmet	Nov 2020	#151
To have to watch him brag how "they had nothing on me"	LiberalLovinLug	Nov 2020	#69
It's not about healing. It's about the rule of law, accountability, and DETERRENCE.	Martin Eden	Nov 2020	#71
That was the rationale with Nixon	Jarqui	Nov 2020	#73
We tried that after the Civil War & 155 years later	intheflow	Nov 2020	#74
NY will	crimycarny	Nov 2020	#75
No fucking way. Anyone that proposes that has lost my support.	Evolve Dammit	Nov 2020	#76
We need closure, not 'healing'... lock him up.	Talitha	Nov 2020	#77
Totally agree. My memory goes back the the Nixon pardon and the Iran-Contra debacle,	fierywoman	Nov 2020	#78
New York	MFM008	Nov 2020	#79
I'm still pissed ....	BradBo	Nov 2020	#80
that was sickening	Skittles	Nov 2020	#141
His whole famiily in jail is the cure for what ails me	randr	Nov 2020	#81
It is the only way to heal, JUSTICE !!!!!!	Miigwech	Nov 2020	#82
Amen.	Joinfortmill	Nov 2020	#83
Lock him up!	BlueWavePsych	Nov 2020	#87
MAGA will never heal. Only the rest of us might.	Kablooie	Nov 2020	#88
What/ who specifically are you responding to OP? No one is	Kashkakat v.2.0	Nov 2020	#89
People in government	PatSeg	Nov 2020	#90
I'm afraid that he might die from natural causes before they ever convict him of	totodeinhere	Nov 2020	#91
Yup. It's completely backwards.	AleksS	Nov 2020	#92
Let Karma be Karma	srose58089	Nov 2020	#93
If we don't hold Trump accountable, we'll get another Trump.	SunSeeker	Nov 2020	#95
👆 This! And the next "trump" will be smart and charming, instead of stupid and odious.	flibbitygiblets	Nov 2020	#123
Yes, imagine if Trump had been evil and smart instead of evil and stupid. nt	SunSeeker	Nov 2020	#124
It's not about revenge but safeguards	misanthrope	Nov 2020	#96
Very important: Lock him up so that he has no access to social media.	Towlie	Nov 2020	#97
That which is not punished is encouraged.	Xipe Totec	Nov 2020	#99
Agreed	seta1950	Nov 2020	#100
Yep. IF he has committed crimes, which we all know he has,	PatrickforO	Nov 2020	#102
The one thing the idiot did ......	Firestorm49	Nov 2020	#103
We don't prosecute Presidents, we prosecute crimes.	grantcart	Nov 2020	#104
Prosecute and convict him of Treason and Genocide	cp	Nov 2020	#105
I want to have a BULLDOG	Upthevibe	Nov 2020	#106
This message was self-deleted by its author	geralmar	Nov 2020	#109
Biden is handling it well: It's up to the DOJ.	SayItLoud	Nov 2020	#110
Agree. Trump must be prosecuted to end the BS.	Quemado	Nov 2020	#111
He Will Be Prosecuted	colsohlibgal	Nov 2020	#113
A reckoning is coming.	EmeraldCoaster	Nov 2020	#114
I have thought this for a long time.	TruckFump	Nov 2020	#121
You know how they say capital punishment is supposed to be a deterrent to murder and	liberalla	Nov 2020	#116
He fucking committed TREASON!	dhol82	Nov 2020	#117
Lock up the Lyin' Loser.	Brother Mythos	Nov 2020	#118
tRump	bdamomma	Nov 2020	#119
He needs to be tried for Sedition!	burrowowl	Nov 2020	#122
maggotrump Got Impeached, didn't he.	Cha	Nov 2020	#125
Not prosecuting would cross my red line	ecstatic	Nov 2020	#126
No Way.....LAW AND ORDER!!!......remember?	W T F	Nov 2020	#128
He has to be	Meowmee	Nov 2020	#131
Totally Unacceptable.	not_the_one	Nov 2020	#132
My only concern is that prosecuting him could enrage Republicans	Calista241	Nov 2020	#133
But refusing to go after him will allow him to come back with a vengeance, and will enrage	Celerity	Nov 2020	#140
The STATE O F NEW YORK will prosecute him for Tax evasion ...	yuiyoshida	Nov 2020	#134
Why didn't the state of NY prosecute him for tax evasion before?	former9thward	Nov 2020	#136
it was recently discovered ....	yuiyoshida	Nov 2020	#139
Nothing was recently discovered.	former9thward	Nov 2020	#154
I could not possibly agree more!	BobTheSubgenius	Nov 2020	#135
There's a lot he could be prosecuted for	MyMission	Nov 2020	#138
Fīat jūstitia ruat caelum	ET Awful	Nov 2020	#142
I suspect Trump will try to self-pardon because Pence won't do it	jmowreader	Nov 2020	#144
Nothing in the Constitution limits pardons in that way ...	Hermit-The-Prog	Nov 2020	#145
The only major mistake Obama made while in office was not appointing an independent investigator	cstanleytech	Nov 2020	#147
The courts in NY are investigating in prep for doing this. Who is saying that they shouldn't?	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#150
I cannot heal if criminals are let off because they are loudmouth assholes with a bunch of followers	bullimiami	Nov 2020	#152
Amen to that!!!	secondwind	Nov 2020	#153
I don't think we'll solve it here	fescuerescue	Nov 2020	#156
Manafort's guy in Ukraine jailed the defeated Prime Minster, Ukraine broke apart, democracy died	Cicada	Nov 2020	#157
with every breath I take	llashram	Nov 2020	#158
Put him in jail so he can't run in 2024**	MRDAWG	Nov 2020	#159
X2	sellitman	Nov 2020	#160
Criminals must be brought to justice	samsingh	Nov 2020	#161
The nation isn't going to "heal" either way	durablend	Nov 2020	#162
He should, for the many excellent reasons already expressed here, be	Enoki33	Nov 2020	#163
Can a convicted felon run again for President?	StaunchDemocrat1957	Nov 2020	#164
"We the people" DESERVE to see the orange devil	tazmaniac	Nov 2020	#165
Sadly, as much as I would love to see him face consequences	Nexus2	Nov 2020	#166
pardons will not save his arse in NY	Celerity	Nov 2020	#167
They're fascist and need to be treated as such and taken down hard.	Hotler	Nov 2020	#168

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