In it's simplest moral, ethical and legal form either we are a nation (Reply #64)

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:40 AM

Enoki33 (1,519 posts)

64. In it's simplest moral, ethical and legal form either we are a nation

of laws, or we are not. We have to also decide what we want to leave for the next generation, and ultimately the planet. Justice should indeed be blind, not dependent on political considerations.

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112 replies	Author	Time	Post
How can anyone let this slide? [View all]	kentuck	Nov 2020	OP
All involved must get harshest penalties allowed and asset forfeitures	SheltieLover	Nov 2020	#1
Lost me at asset forfeiture	raffishtenant	Nov 2020	#18
As repayment for any who are proven to have cheated the US	SheltieLover	Nov 2020	#20
Welcome to our DU family.	niyad	Nov 2020	#22
Thank you! Good to be here.	raffishtenant	Nov 2020	#40
RICO violations and subsequent forfeitures are much more justifiable. n/t	Eyeball_Kid	Nov 2020	#34
Okay, that's reasonable.	raffishtenant	Nov 2020	#37
Recouping stolen goods sound better?	we can do it	Nov 2020	#53
I like that. Ex: Dejail -he needs to pay for all those sorting machines he destroyed	onetexan	Nov 2020	#104
Like this☝🏼exactly.	we can do it	Nov 2020	#105
what about criminal asset forfeiture, then? nt	Grasswire2	Nov 2020	#89
I'm no fan of taking the easy way out.	democrank	Nov 2020	#2
I am no fan of doing things that will help Republicans. Send help to the people.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#11
Can do both. Should do both.	RVN VET71	Nov 2020	#47
You can't do both this time IMHO. I have said let justice handle it... but many will be pardoned.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#67
I agree	LeftInTX	Nov 2020	#68
I do vaguely recall that a while back	quakerboy	Nov 2020	#102
What Democrats are "letting it slide"	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#3
Preemptive post	Ferrets are Cool	Nov 2020	#4
Yes, it shows great concern.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#5
Yes, it does show great concern.	kentuck	Nov 2020	#6
But you don't say about whom.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#35
You seem to be very defensive...	kentuck	Nov 2020	#63
Yes, I am sure...it is this prodding and the subsequent 'message' voting that made sure	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#69
If Democrats do not have a strong Justice Dept, willing to turn over every rock, ....	kentuck	Nov 2020	#71
So you're convinced Biden will purposefully choose an AG who will blow off holding	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#75
I don't think Biden or his AG will let this criminality slide...	paleotn	Nov 2020	#88
I'm hoping he hires someone that understands the necesssity of knowing the facts...	kentuck	Nov 2020	#95
So you assume he doesn't 'understand the necessity of knowing the facts.'	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#110
??	paleotn	Nov 2020	#112
I remember the melt down. I wanted people to go to jail as well, because I lost my job as a result.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#111
Did you find a sale on strawmen? You seem to have some very grave doubts about Democratic leadership	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#74
As far as penalties go...	N_E_1 for Tennis	Nov 2020	#7
I don't believe in the death penalty.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#12
Quite honestly I don't either...	N_E_1 for Tennis	Nov 2020	#25
Republican administrations (national & state) have always been pro-death penalty	KS Toronado	Nov 2020	#38
+1	2naSalit	Nov 2020	#60
Not mine, I hate those people and Trump in particular but state sanctioned murder is wrong.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#87
I'm against it for various reasons And ...	electric_blue68	Nov 2020	#82
Once Biden's admin is sworn in and we have a new AG something can be done. Right now we know	onetexan	Nov 2020	#8
Yes, it has to be done.	kentuck	Nov 2020	#9
Trump may not have committed prosecutable crimes...I would bet he hasn't.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#13
He has committed prosecutable crimes. SDNY has him as a co-conspirator.	Eyeball_Kid	Nov 2020	#36
The SDNY crimes will be pardoned. So we are left with the State crimes. There will never	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#43
Can one be pardoned when not indicted?	summer_in_TX	Nov 2020	#97
I was talking federal...and he will pardon himself.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#85
If we can't try the Boss, we can try his Lieutenants.	RVN VET71	Nov 2020	#62
The AG can look into it as can states. I would be they will all be pardoned on the federal level.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#65
Well, we in NYC are...	electric_blue68	Nov 2020	#84
It is time to move forward with our policies and such which are quite popular...not backwards.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#15
He is going to be pardoned...so what will happen? Maybe New York will work we shall see.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#70
Why are you so certain that it won't be?	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#76
I would say due to complicit repugs	mdbl	Nov 2020	#21
What I would say is those who may cause us to lose elections are always among us...not you	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#44
Biden Hopes To Avoid Investigations	OhioTim	Nov 2020	#103
Which crime are you talking about?	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#10
Oh, there are no crimes.	kentuck	Nov 2020	#14
I find that what most people here assume are crimes committed as President...	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#17
Is attempting a coup or subverting our Constitution a crime?	kentuck	Nov 2020	#19
Ask yourself: How has Trump attempted a Coup?	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#24
You're the lawyer.	kentuck	Nov 2020	#26
Again, WHAT criminal charge?	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#29
Do you honestly believe that Donald Trump has committed no crimes?	kentuck	Nov 2020	#30
In my experience, the line between policy choices and criminal activity by Elected Officials...	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#31
I think the only thing standing between Trump and jail are knowing the facts and the truth...	kentuck	Nov 2020	#33
I heard this during impeachment. And the Democrats clearly showed Trump's criminality and	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#55
Your opinion of Biden seems very dim.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#81
I think so too...Policy and criminal behavior as you point out is blurry at best.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#45
I believe that the state AGs will inflict death by a thousand stings	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#79
So you honestly believe that he won't be prosecuted to the full extent of the law?	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#77
Red herring fallacy.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#78
Kidnapping and torturing children is a criminal act	questionseverything	Nov 2020	#92
Bingo!!	onetexan	Nov 2020	#106
And some should go blindfolded to a wall.	gibraltar72	Nov 2020	#16
The groundswell, the blue wave, the grass roots movement......	jaxexpat	Nov 2020	#23
No there won't be...	brooklynite	Nov 2020	#27
The administration won't participate in prosecutable action if they're as smart as I think.	jaxexpat	Nov 2020	#32
I nominate Hillary R Clinton for AG.	Ligyron	Nov 2020	#59
+1000000	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#52
There is no such howling...and half the country wants Trump left alone. he should be charged in	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#46
Which American people?	hay rick	Nov 2020	#61
Trump still has 47% support...unfathomable to me but, there it is.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#66
What is it then? What's the real problem?	jaxexpat	Nov 2020	#83
Congress needs to address a national emergency and leave the prosecution to the AG and	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#86
But not just Trump.	jaxexpat	Nov 2020	#93
I'm a woman who escaped a physically abusive domestic partner.	Texin	Nov 2020	#28
I'm Glad You Were Able To Escape	COL Mustard	Nov 2020	#39
Time to work for the people.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#48
So sorry this happened to you	LeftInTX	Nov 2020	#72
Some should burn in hell.	DemoTex	Nov 2020	#41
Without a doubt.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#49
To sweep it under the rug is to invite further assault on our nation.	liberalla	Nov 2020	#42
It is not sweeping it under the rug and you can bet it will happen again now that they have	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#50
Agreed. Some should.	BobTheSubgenius	Nov 2020	#51
All of the crimes have been calculated and intentional	dlk	Nov 2020	#54
Many should go to jail.	Joinfortmill	Nov 2020	#56
Nuremberg	tiptonic	Nov 2020	#57
Who exactly wants to "sweep it under the rug?"	mtnsnake	Nov 2020	#58
perhaps it is reference to the track record	Skittles	Nov 2020	#91
In it's simplest moral, ethical and legal form either we are a nation	Enoki33	Nov 2020	#64
As others have noted, Joe Biden does not have to get deeply involved.	kentuck	Nov 2020	#73
So you think Biden won't choose an AG who is "strong?"	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#80
No, I don't know that he will, but....	kentuck	Nov 2020	#94
So you're assuming he won't.	ehrnst	Nov 2020	#109
they need to be held accountable	Skittles	Nov 2020	#90
Without Consequences...	Catch2.2	Nov 2020	#96
I think the leadership group of the party must concede to letting the AG off any reigns	LiberalLovinLug	Nov 2020	#98
That's what we do :( we overlooked ALL trump crimes for	Laura PourMeADrink	Nov 2020	#99
K&R	Blue Owl	Nov 2020	#100
Don't forget that Kamala Harris is a former prosecutor	ucrdem	Nov 2020	#101
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2020	#107
Dejoy and Emily Murphy are examples of individuals who	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Nov 2020	#108

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