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applegrove

(118,499 posts)
8. Blue collar workers have nothing so they stop thinking rationally and start looking for
Sat Dec 5, 2020, 12:16 PM
Dec 2020

a cult that gives meaning to their lives. Was a man in central ontario. He assaulted somebody in a store because they asked him to wear a mask. He took off. Police chased him but gave up the chace because they had his license plate. They went to his home. He met them with guns blazing. So the police shot him dead. He had meaning in his life. He had some power being in the cult. That is what democrats are fighting against.

When people are not paid well or have no hope for a better future, they start living through emotion rather than reason (reason only highlights the lack of power in their lives). They stop living in reality. A cult gives them marching orders and a direct connection to a powerful leader. The power is attainable and shared.

He will. LakeArenal Dec 2020 #1
not good news northoftheborder Dec 2020 #2
Conclusion: we need to make college affordable to KPN Dec 2020 #3
I like your line of reasoning. c-rational Dec 2020 #6
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Higher education doesn't only include 4 year degrees. It also includes trade schools, Doremus Dec 2020 #37
Thanks for that. I 100% agree with everything you said. KPN Dec 2020 #43
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This is why the GOP focused on filling Boards of Education back in the 80s. CrispyQ Dec 2020 #16
Not everyone needs a college degree. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #27
I agree. That doesn't mean don't make it affordable for everyone. KPN Dec 2020 #44
Agree. And I feel we really need to push two-year degrees and the trades. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #46
Yup. In part it's about encouraging goals with avenues for getting there. KPN Dec 2020 #48
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Nope. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Dec 2020 #4
Because Democrats are terrible at messaging edhopper Dec 2020 #11
But regionally it does exboyfil Dec 2020 #19
I am not worried about winning W Virginia or Wyoming edhopper Dec 2020 #23
Good god I am tired of that line. SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #22
I agree that there is a problem edhopper Dec 2020 #24
Maybe messaging isn't the problem StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #29
The dude won. That's kinda' the bottom line. n/t DonaldsRump Dec 2020 #5
The final result of where the blue collar worker's alliegence will go depends upon what napi21 Dec 2020 #7
Blue collar workers have nothing so they stop thinking rationally and start looking for applegrove Dec 2020 #8
I know many blue collar workers that do quite well for themselves MichMan Dec 2020 #41
But union membership has gone down in the last 40 years. Those people no longer applegrove Dec 2020 #45
Ronald Reagan broke the back of the unions. Workers are the ones who have to start them again... Hekate Dec 2020 #69
Yes, with unions comes more economic class consciousness. betsuni Dec 2020 #72
He won enough to win the presidency. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #9
Every time I turn around I bump into this. We have GOT to improve our education... LAS14 Dec 2020 #10
And they voted for Brexit and Johnson frazzled Dec 2020 #13
Our messaging is terrible edhopper Dec 2020 #12
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Um. No. Racism and economic anxiety are NOT "two sides of the same coin" StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #68
That "Democrats abandoned the working class for wealthy donors/corporations" talking point betsuni Dec 2020 #74
Yup StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #75
It's like we don't believe in marketing. CrispyQ Dec 2020 #18
There's nothing wrong with our messaging StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #70
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #71
exit POLLS Nimble_Idea Dec 2020 #14
+1 cry baby Dec 2020 #20
And the white working class is getting ready to put two crooked exboyfil Dec 2020 #21
Biden Won Back (Enough of) the White Working Class bigtree Dec 2020 #25
Condescension/elitism is the problem, dividing all by "college" or not-college. UTUSN Dec 2020 #26
I'm tired of Democrats being blamed for "elitism" while white working class continue to vote StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #30
Well, I'm tired of voicing whatever & having it shot down arbitrarily. And discussion is futile when UTUSN Dec 2020 #32
+1000 AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #36
Bravo! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #49
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Did you stumble into the wrong place? StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #59
They are fine voting for Republicans that support NAFTA JI7 Dec 2020 #63
I agree about Bill Maher. I dread OPs after his shows because they betsuni Dec 2020 #76
Exit polls are useless this cycle AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #28
I think exit polls should be taken with caution this time but you're wrong. Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #34
They included those who voted early but not mail voters AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #35
This is wrong. They absolutely did. Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #54
+1, Polls are useless this cycle uponit7771 Dec 2020 #38
This election had almost nothing to with class consciousness tirebiter Dec 2020 #31
Joe Biden did better than Hillary with working class voters. Drunken Irishman Dec 2020 #33
Yes I'm going to post that very thing uponit7771 Dec 2020 #39
Why are these articles so much against saying "white working class" versus working class? uponit7771 Dec 2020 #40
This isn't a resolvable difference Azathoth Dec 2020 #42
I was a union rep from 1970-2010. Members went from strong Democrats to strong Republicans. Midnight Writer Dec 2020 #47
At this point, the only way a change in Democratic "messaging" will get these people back StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #50
Exactly and it's frustrating so many white people who claim to be Democrats JI7 Dec 2020 #58
Exactly - Republican messaging is more effective BECAUSE THEY AGREE WITH THE MESSAGE StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #64
Just like with Fox news where they listened becsuse they agreed and stopped JI7 Dec 2020 #67
Remember all the food bank lines??? LeftInTX Dec 2020 #51
Hate radio and Fox "News" has much of the working class brainwashed Yeehah Dec 2020 #57
But they didn't listen to Fox News when they reported Biden won JI7 Dec 2020 #61
There is a lot of bs in this article . Biden DID increase support from 2016 JI7 Dec 2020 #60
Better studies are needed this time treestar Dec 2020 #62
Yep, we keep playing favorites and pushing the "do not push this button" button. gulliver Dec 2020 #65
I don't call garnering 80 million votes a "flight" from either Joe or the Democratic Party... Hekate Dec 2020 #66
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #73
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