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Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
48. Agreed. It's all viewed through the corporate mass-media filter.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

TPM did 2 pieces of analysis of CNN's debate take. They covered CNN's John Berman 'fact-checking' Romney's $5 trillion dollars in 'closed-loopholes' claim, where Berman 'checks' by saying 'if you take him (Romney) at his word', he has a way to pay for his tax cuts for the rich, so the claim that Romney has no way to pay for the $5 trillion tax cut is false. And TPM linked to CNN's 'snap poll' of the debate, which 'showed viewers think Romney won', where the sampling appears to be devoid of anyone who isn't a Southern white person over 50 years old.

The debate tape compilation of Romney continually talking over Lehrer, refusing to shut up or concede that his time is up, shows mass media's magic debate moderation deference. The repug candidate, who answered a total of 3 questions to his press pool during his disastrous 'foreign policy tour', is taking it to the press (the debate moderator), playing smash-mouth on the media for the edification of his yahoo followers. He usually is afraid to answer questions from the media, is much more comfortable telling millionaire backers what he truly thinks. But media must maintain debate decorum, unlike the typically weak repug candidate. The same 'level playing field' that promoted appearances of competence and competitiveness for Reagan, Poppy, Quayle, Perot, Stockdale, Shrub, McCain, Palin, is now being used for lame and lyin romney-ryan.

He gets caught telling the truth to his rich buddies, then debate media lets him tell simplistic lies aggressively for his rank-and-file followers, who understand power-dynamics in a way that even toddlers do. Then those unwashed masses proudly crow about their candidate's performance, and CNN will do a poll that shows the repugs' craven candidate 'dominated the debate'. Those rank-and-file fools will now be encouraged to loudly let us know their one-line take aways from this debate. That prospect isn't too intimidating for our rank-and-file, and the campaign is long used to executing triple-bank shots in the media to get around media's systemic problems.

Re Syria and Turkey, Turkey's military propensity to roll over international borders can't have escaped the attention of Syria's gov or the amorphous armed groups that are trying to overthrow it. Someone in Syria fired first anyway, wonder who it was.

YUP! graham4anything Oct 2012 #1
Thanks. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #24
so many judgments being made about esoterics and style bigtree Oct 2012 #2
I think the President's response was likely genius. It will become more apparent in the coming days. porphyrian Oct 2012 #4
'They can give up their hope, but they can't have mine.' bigtree Oct 2012 #8
Your right, I watched Msnbc oldbanjo Oct 2012 #25
I'm wondering if this is maybe a race thing white people don't get. porphyrian Oct 2012 #27
Ditto all of that 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #51
Yes. Rmoney did not follow procedure and he said things that were inaccurate or inconsistent treestar Oct 2012 #31
You can blame pundits all you want LondonReign2 Oct 2012 #62
Those polls mean nothing treestar Oct 2012 #63
Robme. Your Presidential nominee. Do we really need a crack head in the White House? Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #3
I'm sorry, what? I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or insulting me. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #6
A lot of people wondered if Robme was drugged up. No one thought that about Obama. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #13
Ah, OK, right. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #15
Sorry if it seemed weird. I hate liars with a passion and I'm still punchy. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #18
It's all good. I'm still drinking coffee. porphyrian Oct 2012 #20
I know your point is a good one, but Obama really didn't help. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #5
A "tougher" Obama would have been pigeonholed as Angry Black Man. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #7
My thought. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #16
Amen. The so called leftist pundits could have spent the evening treestar Oct 2012 #32
Contrary to what the media has been saying, everything has not been riding on this debate. porphyrian Oct 2012 #9
A tougher Obama may have spurred racial tensions for him being too plethoro Oct 2012 #14
I'm not convinced that President Obama lost that debate. porphyrian Oct 2012 #17
It will take a couple of days to see what the aftereffect of the debate is. Challengers usually win plethoro Oct 2012 #22
How many debates did Kerry win durablend Oct 2012 #42
Another good point. Very few minds were changed on who to vote for by this debate. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #43
Agreed. It's all viewed through the corporate mass-media filter. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #48
Agreed, and I wonder, too. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #50
GOP SOB's SOP. n t. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #57
Ha! n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #59
Cribbed from Franken. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #60
Of course the media would do that. They get higher ratings in a close race. Selatius Oct 2012 #10
The President didn't look weak or indecisive, he just didn't meet everyone's expectations of... porphyrian Oct 2012 #11
I didn't think Obama came off as too weak. Selatius Oct 2012 #12
Well, I think the next Presidential debate may go a little differently than this one. porphyrian Oct 2012 #19
IMO people set themselves up treestar Oct 2012 #33
Agreed. This was a Presidential debate, not an MMA match. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #36
Yup durablend Oct 2012 #45
Obama was off his game ....but he has two more debates Tippy Oct 2012 #21
He was playing defense and he succeeded. People believe he failed because they... porphyrian Oct 2012 #23
THANK YOU!!!! Finally someone said it... truebrit71 Oct 2012 #26
That was my thought, too. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #28
You got it right....thanks Tippy Oct 2012 #29
The Obama campaign has been brilliant both times treestar Oct 2012 #34
I can't say it enough oliverrams1 Oct 2012 #47
Exactly oliverrams treestar Oct 2012 #61
I think the pundits are just performing theater. They are smarter than that. porphyrian Oct 2012 #64
lol treestar Oct 2012 #66
No doubt madokie Oct 2012 #30
Things will become more clear as the alcohol wears off and the story unfolds. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #37
+1111111 Tsiyu Oct 2012 #35
Thanks. I think so. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #38
It was one night Tsiyu Oct 2012 #39
porphyrian I want to believe you littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #40
Arithmetic. porphyrian Oct 2012 #41
The media has been mostly successful at the conversion of slaughters to horse races wtmusic Oct 2012 #44
I don't agree with your last statement. porphyrian Oct 2012 #46
Didn't know... wtmusic Oct 2012 #53
I would love to see those two in a cage match, but that won't happen. porphyrian Oct 2012 #55
I agree. The only thing I wondered about while watching the debate... reeds2012 Oct 2012 #49
President Obama turned the tables on Romney. porphyrian Oct 2012 #52
I got the feeling Obama was being lackluster on purpose. reeds2012 Oct 2012 #54
If you watched the President closely, he was seething at times. porphyrian Oct 2012 #56
Ok thanks! Good eye. reeds2012 Oct 2012 #58
This is what Romney looked like... porphyrian Oct 2012 #65
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