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Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
25. And you (and I) chose to take part in a great science experiment.
Tue May 4, 2021, 03:04 PM
May 2021

I happen to think the benefits outweigh the risks.

But it is still, by the criteria we use to permit unfettered use - and in some instances mandated use - it is still an experiment.

Moving from experiment to approved is a science-based process. It should not be dictated by the whims of politics - because that requires us to trust the good intentions of whoever is holding political office. Pretty sure you would have been screaming bloody murder had Trump just mandated in approval of hydroxochloroquin, or even of vaccines.

As to the millions who have received the vaccine - that's all well and good, but we didn't receive the vaccine under controlled settings and not everyone's outcome was tracked. So while it seems logical that it should be safe, there is a large leap between putting shots in arms and proving that there aren't intermediate-term consequences. That data has to be gathered scientifically (not just by counting shots).

It's a process. LisaL May 2021 #1
Yeah well, this is a problem. boston bean May 2021 #2
Science is not a problem. Ms. Toad May 2021 #19
This. Of course. Hortensis May 2021 #20
That is all good. 200 million americans s have received the vaccine including myself. boston bean May 2021 #24
And you (and I) chose to take part in a great science experiment. Ms. Toad May 2021 #25
So, this reason for hesitancy is well founded. boston bean May 2021 #26
For anyone paying attention to the science - there is reason Ms. Toad May 2021 #29
It is long term effects they are saying is a concern. As the FDA has not approved fully. boston bean May 2021 #31
You don't need to tell them Ms. Toad May 2021 #32
That is what I am saying. We need FDA full approval as soon as possible. boston bean May 2021 #33
Patence. Ms. Toad May 2021 #34
Medium term studies need to be conducted that dsc May 2021 #3
Pfizer hasn't even filed for full approval. RegularJam May 2021 #4
At least the military Elessar Zappa May 2021 #8
That is true. It could. RegularJam May 2021 #16
Full approval won't change anything. tymorial May 2021 #5
Well, it will allow the military to force their people to take it BoringUsername May 2021 #9
That is a very small number of people, overall. RegularJam May 2021 #17
Full approval means lots of places can mandate the vaccine Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #21
"Can" RegularJam May 2021 #22
ALready happeneing Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #27
I didn't argue to the contrary about it currently happening on a small scale. RegularJam May 2021 #28
"Some people say..." OneGrassRoot May 2021 #6
FDA approval is irrelevant to Reich-wing antivaxers Orrex May 2021 #7
That is why I specifically said hesitant. Not anti vax, agreed they are hopeless boston bean May 2021 #10
Oh, my bad. Orrex May 2021 #12
It,does exist in the left too. But for covid mostly in the right. boston bean May 2021 #14
Very true. (nt) Orrex May 2021 #15
Vaccine hesitant for just this vaccine Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #30
Absolutely agree mainer May 2021 #11
Agreed. I don't think we're going to get where TraceNC May 2021 #13
These things can take the FDA years. former9thward May 2021 #18
I can guarantee if Trump had won forthemiddle May 2021 #23
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