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Aristus

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5. Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious.

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:30 PM

Jul 2021

And the first three are not chosen characteristics.

Just as one can choose not to get vaccinated, one can also choose to get vaccinated. And if one wants admittance into the presence of human beings who don't want to die of COVID-19, making the choice sooner rather than later is a good idea.

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Should hospitals be allowed to turn away patients based on race, creed, suspected gayness... [View all] Hekate Jul 2021 OP

Rec. Iggo Jul 2021 #1

I treid to make that point earlier. We have to fight our rage and justified resentment. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #2

i dont know about this "slope" but it makes no sense to turn them away if they are Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #3

No, and they are NOT the same things. elleng Jul 2021 #4

Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious. Aristus Jul 2021 #5

Exactly. If you are unvaccinated, you are voluntarily a danger to staff and patients. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #19

Thank you Hekate Devil Child Jul 2021 #6

People do stupid things all the time that result in medical tragedy. NNadir Jul 2021 #7

Great answer. -nt CrispyQ Jul 2021 #8

How many medical professionals did your father ask to die because of Maru Kitteh Jul 2021 #68

My father was treated with 5-FU, a known carcinogen itself... NNadir Jul 2021 #72

People are saying hospitals should turn away the unvaccinated? Haggard Celine Jul 2021 #9

At last, someone with a memory. I was thinking both of the early AIDS crisis & the pre-Civil Rights Hekate Jul 2021 #51

Your analogies make no sense. Goodheart Jul 2021 #10

Great Points modrepub Jul 2021 #13

Somebody's refusal to vaccinate is a voluntary choice. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #20

Thank you. SharonClark Jul 2021 #32

See above Hekate Jul 2021 #62

Oh, I happen to agree that the unvaccinated right now should not be turned away, BUT Goodheart Jul 2021 #74

+100000 BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #11

NO! As a medical professional..absolutely not PortTack Jul 2021 #12

There is solid precedent, btw, in the "conscience clauses" demanded by the Evangelicals ... Hekate Jul 2021 #14

Hospitals are there to treat sick people. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #15

I would certainly hope so. Hekate Jul 2021 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Jul 2021 #47

Ah, grammar can kill ya if you're not careful. I AGREED with you. Hekate Jul 2021 #48

Sorry Tomconroy Jul 2021 #50

's okay Hekate Jul 2021 #58

I would guess that most people saying that are just venting, because many of us Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #16

This is the kind of thing that pisses me off beyond belief. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #67

Never. It should be the law that they cannot discriminate MineralMan Jul 2021 #17

+10000000000000000 Celerity Jul 2021 #69

Bullshit. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #18

Of course not Meowmee Jul 2021 #21

Self kick Hekate Jul 2021 #22

Turn away the unvaccinated? No. xmas74 Jul 2021 #23

yikes... are DUers suggesting the unvaxxed get turned away? Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #24

Yes: it's been intermittent but vengeful, with pile-ons. I Object.... Hekate Jul 2021 #31

They're just venting. SharonClark Jul 2021 #33

My wife is a medical professional. hunter Jul 2021 #25

Are we going to turn away: Patterson Jul 2021 #26

My brother, who died last year of COPD, started smoking by age 13. Some people are so judgmental... Hekate Jul 2021 #45

Public health is not a weapon to punish people we don't like. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #27

TY, WhiskeyGrinder, for being among the few who are getting my point Hekate Jul 2021 #38

+1 WhiskeyGrinder, Best sentence in this entire thread! Devil Child Jul 2021 #64

As a highly communicable disease threat, they should go to separate COVID facilities. roamer65 Jul 2021 #28

You are spreading medical misinformation. Please stop. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #49

In your opinion. roamer65 Jul 2021 #52

Give me a source. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #53

... roamer65 Jul 2021 #54

Well I guess that's sort of a source. Now what exactly does that mean? Tomconroy Jul 2021 #57

... roamer65 Jul 2021 #59

I read it but your thesis is still crap. Vaccines protect against the Delta virus.. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #60

No read again. They specifically stated that 6 ft will not work with Delta in one of the articles. roamer65 Jul 2021 #61

I did read it again. I guess you are referring to an Tomconroy Jul 2021 #63

Have you missed all of the studies on aerosolized transmission? Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #76

And that's why everyone in a hospital wears a mask. Problem solved. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #78

Still not acknowledging that you are wrong about 6'? Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #79

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #29

I'll join you in trashing it. SharonClark Jul 2021 #34

Even idiots deserve quality Healthcare nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #30

+1. Nt Dirty Socialist Jul 2021 #65

No, not the same thing at all JI7 Jul 2021 #35

Which point on your list infects others? LanternWaste Jul 2021 #36

Read all my comments in this thread and you will understand my point, loud and clear Hekate Jul 2021 #37

Once someone finds one excuse to deny health care Sympthsical Jul 2021 #39

Walking away from anyone who need medical assistance violates the Hippocratic Oath. meadowlander Jul 2021 #40

Yet right here at DU we have members demanding that doctors & hospitals do just that Hekate Jul 2021 #42

You're not alone. Treefrog Jul 2021 #66

Can they deny treatment on religious grounds? SoonerPride Jul 2021 #41

Those of us in the pro-choice community KNOW they can Hekate Jul 2021 #43

So yeah. They're already denying medical services SoonerPride Jul 2021 #44

Are you still not wearing a mask? Nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #80

I am vaccinated. SoonerPride Jul 2021 #81

Lol, Things have change a little bit since you were pushing that. USALiberal Jul 2021 #82

Changed? like what? Breakthough cases are still rare. SoonerPride Jul 2021 #86

So you're still not going to wear a mask?? USALiberal Jul 2021 #89

I agree with your assessment Skittles Jul 2021 #55

Thank you, Skittles Hekate Jul 2021 #56

I absolutely agree as well. Celerity Jul 2021 #70

Another perspective on this. Nurses getting abused and threatened by covidiots. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #71

Don't Turn them Away - Charge Them Or Their Insurance Co. For Treatment Though Jim G. Jul 2021 #73

Of course not. How is this even a discussion? SKKY Jul 2021 #75

As I mentioned earlier, DUers. Very, very angry DUers with vengeful thoughts. Okay, not all... Hekate Jul 2021 #88

First, no it isn't where we are going.It's not the same thing ismnotwasm Jul 2021 #77

They should be turned away once the designated covid areas are full. Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #83

Hospitals Should RobinA Jul 2021 #84

WhiskeyGrinder put it most succinctly: Public health is not a weapon to punish people we don't like Hekate Jul 2021 #85

I don't think it is where we are headed. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #87