Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT?

[NurseJackie]

71. You know perfectly well that I'm not "quoting" anyone's talking points.

You basically quoted talking points which have been repetitive on right-wing radio--- against giving "awards" to student athletes who didn't actually "win" contests, and aimed those same talking points, almost word-for-word, against a senator who caucuses with our party.

Bullshit. Everyone knows perfectly well that I'm not "quoting" anyone's talking points. I've made VALID points and LEGITIMATE criticism. Also, it's easy to see that my criticism is LESS about "a senator who caucuses with our party" and MORE about the fact that the over-the-top adoration is misplaced.

Instead of admitting I'm right, and instead of rebutting the facts... I'm being PERSONALLY ATTACKED AND INSULTED (yet again) as being a "right-wing" mouthpiece. Attacking the messenger is a lazy defense. Please stop. I haven't attacked you. Nobody is entitled to attack and insult me. Mature people should be able to control their temper and not use it as an excuse to lash out at others.

and you offered nothing.

The numbers don't lie. People can try to split hairs and "massage" new meanings into the numbers, but the facts are the facts and they're plain as the nose on someone's face. Right there for all to see.

Last place is STILL last place. It will always be last place. Nothing will change that. It's not subjective or in need of anyone's interpretation or excuses.

than the "least loyal" Democratic party senator.

I never said "least loyal" ... so what good purpose does it serve for anyone to put those words in quotes and attribute it to me as if it was something I said. Why? That's dishonest. Stop it!

I asked you to offer evidence of Sanders' votes that were particularly "wrong" for the Democratic party, and you offered nothing.

That's not true. Nobody ever asked any such thing of me. Please do not use false statement to try and score-points against me. Stop it!

I don't care much about your attack on Sanders...

I have not attacked him. I. Have. Not. Attacked. Him. Continually repeating something that's false does NOT make it true. Stop it! Just fucking stop it!

but using right-wing tropes to do it goes way over the line.

I do not use "right-wing tropes". Every word I've spoken or written has been carefully considered and is true. I'm very thoughtful and measured in what I say. I do not over-react. I do not attack. I do not smear.

I also do not make FALSE ACCUSATIONS about others on this discussion forum. I don't try to excuse bad behavior by claiming to lose my temper.

about how the "less than perfect" athletes should receive no honors for participating, as an attack against Sanders.

No, I never said anything of the sort. Stop making shit up! I never attacked Sanders. Stop making shit up!

Intelligent readers understand that the "youth soccer" comment is about a harmful laissez-faire philosophy, helicopter-parenting, my-child-can-do-no-wrong, and an intellectual trap, that the most ardent defenders have fallen into. This is POLITICS, not youth-soccer... and it shouldn't be treated that way. It should be results-based, not effort-based. It should be about doing things that benefit the citizens, not building egos or engaging in political stunts for fundraising.

In the real world, politicians should not get points for showing up and "trying"... or for "sticking to their guns"... or for "never compromising". Politicians should not be praised for voting against GOOD legislation simply because it's not "perfect". In the end, those types of politicians accomplish NOTHING (but inexplicably their fans praise them anyway.) Politicians should not be encouraged to "tank" bipartisan hard-fought-for legislation because it involved compromise. Their fans shouldn't encourage that type of destructive and regressive behavior either.

The hard work is not in "being stubborn" with a doomed-to-fail philosophy of "all or nothing". Instead, the HARD work is done by SMART legislators who know how to negotiate and make difficult deals... and who know how to swallow their pride and make compromises and find common ground. Wise legislators know that some progress is better than ZERO progress.

We accomplish things with an all-hands-on-deck attitude. We hold back the GOP by voting consistently WITH the Biden/Harris administration. Without fail. Every single one. There should be ZERO "last place" senators. Everyone should be TIED FOR FIRST PLACE!! Everyone!!

Maybe you did not realize the sources of what you were quoting?

What bullshit! I don't know how anyone could be more INSULTING to me than this is right now. Please be aware that I'm perfectly capable of independent thought, and that the words and ideas that I speak and write are my own. I live in the real world. Nobody speaks for me. I don't go around quoting right-wing sources. Do not treat me as though I do not have a brain. Fact of the matter is this... if someone is going to accuse me of quoting RW sources, then they need to PROVE their accusation. Otherwise, nip it!

I give you the "benefit of the doubt" on that, for the moment.

Oh good lord! You'll do WHAT? Spare me! Cut the sanctimonious and insulting crap, please.

What would be more productive is to explain to me why it is that anything less than fawning praise is characterized as an "right-wing"? Why is even the slightest criticism from perfectly RATIONAL and loyal Democrats characterized as an "attack"? It's ridiculous. Total farce.