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In reply to the discussion: "Its Time To Shut Up About Bob [View all]Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)1. Then it's also time to shut up about a lot of things
Some, but not all, of these "corporations don't pay taxes / get subsidies" things are because they are doing stuff we told them to do and offered to pay them to do.
If you want government to subsidize things like wind, solar, and renewable carbon (biodiesel and biomethane), then you are going to have to accept the fact that the government is going to pay Shell to do that.
https://www.shell.com/energy-and-innovation/new-energies/wind.html
"Shell first invested in US onshore wind in 2001. Today we have four operating wind farms onshore in the USA. These are:
Rock River (Wyoming)
Shell has been delivering renewable wind power from the Rock River windfarm in Wyoming, USA, since 2001. Rock River, which Shell co-owns with US renewables company, Terra-Gen, produces enough electricity to power 25,000 US homes.
Brazos (Texas)
The Brazos windfarm in Fluvanna, Texas, sits south east of Lubbock, on the Caprock of the Llano Estacado and is fully operated by Shell. The 160-megawatt site consists of 160 Mitsubishi turbines and can provide enough energy to power around 48,000 US homes.
Whitewater Hill (California)
Shell co-owns Whitewater Hill with US renewables company Terra-Gen. The 61.5-megawatt wind farm, located north-west of Palm Springs, California, has more than 1,400 turbines and generates over 520 megawatts. Each year, the project is estimated to produce enough energy to power around 12,000 US homes.
Cabazon (California)
Cabazon is also co-owned with Terra-Gen and features 62 turbines that can produce 660 kilowatts. The 41-megawatt wind farm is located in the San Gorgonio Pass west of Palm Springs, California. Each year, the project is estimated to produce enough electricity to power around 12,000 US homes."
We provide subsidy and tax incentives to companies like Shell to do things like that.
If the argument is "let's stop subsidizing or providing tax incentives for stuff", that's fine. But at least be honest about the fact that some of those subsidies and tax incentives are for things we wanted in the first place.
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And these disgusting corporate welfare payments continue still, while the Fossil Fuels ...
SWBTATTReg
Oct 2021
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