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In reply to the discussion: Beware of People Pretending to Be on Our Side [View all]
Celerity
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All I have seen here is blaming the moderates including "corporate Democrats"
question everything
Oct 2021
#4
Don't need to look hard, I see Manchin and Sinema bashing here every day.
DiamondShark
Oct 2021
#194
We have some right-wing "moderates" who are sabotaging voting rights and BBB.
lagomorph777
Oct 2021
#92
I do not think this op is blaming progressives. Progressives are supporting the Biden agenda.
UCmeNdc
Oct 2021
#5
Yeah we know. If we think incrementalism is what we need to go for while Democrats control the
Autumn
Oct 2021
#11
Amazing how well Republicans can control and get what they want, while in the minority.
Autumn
Oct 2021
#29
The GOP has a 60 vote majority in the Senate when Trump was elected and they got very little...taxes
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#159
Oh they want to do things...like destroy the ACA and Medicare...social security...outlaw abortion...
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#225
Yup. Beyond the things you mentioned, Republicans only want power to STOP
DemocraticPatriot
Oct 2021
#240
No they did not have a 60 vote majority in the Senate when Trump was elected. Not even close.
Celerity
Oct 2021
#186
We need a bigger majority and so did they...but the bottom line for them is the stuff they want to
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#227
My apologies...but the point still stands...they got very little...couldn't even get rid of the ACA.
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#226
Yes we do, we just don't control messages well and do shit that loses votes such as
uponit7771
Oct 2021
#243
Surplus of members does NOT define control of congress. Dems CONSTITUTIONALLY have control of ...
uponit7771
Oct 2021
#262
73 senators, a genie and a partridge a pear tree. It's like some who pretend to be on our side
Autumn
Oct 2021
#166
We have a 5050 senate. That is what we have...and we need more senators...bottom line.
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#165
I don't get what other bill people think could have been passed. This is the one we were
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#248
I keep reminding people that the root of the word "progressive" is "progress". One can't be a....
George II
Oct 2021
#261
I'm blaming the ones that are doing the damage. We know who they are, and why they are doing it
Autumn
Oct 2021
#52
No, not at all. I'm commenting on Dems blaming progressives. Don't comment on what I didn't say.
Autumn
Oct 2021
#91
You think? Talk about defensive there skiffy, it's interesting how defensive people get when you
Autumn
Oct 2021
#279
Yes. The OP very carefully avoids saying who the finger points to, which pretty much guarantees
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#250
You make it sound like an all or nothing proposition, which would be disastrous IMHO. Dems could...
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2021
#205
It is called compromise...and you want better policy help elect more Democrats...
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#25
You're right. Some seem intent on officially pushing Manchin into the arms of the GOP. That....
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2021
#206
That just isn't going to happen. They have lots of power and lots of attention as long as
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#253
You and I usually agree, but I would have no problem using their dirt against them.
Scrivener7
Oct 2021
#251
The reality is, that is not happening right now and yes everyone would like to get the full
Bev54
Oct 2021
#42
The bill hasn't even been written yet, and most of the substance has been stripped
Fiendish Thingy
Oct 2021
#84
Not only is the bill written, but the text has been posted. Focusing on what isn't in the bill
lapucelle
Oct 2021
#252
Actually, what we're currently calling progress is mostly returning to the New Deal & Great Society
rickyhall
Oct 2021
#34
I hear ya. Manchin and Sinema had some fooled but we know what they are all about at this point.
jalan48
Oct 2021
#69
Yes, and unfortunately two Senators are torpedoing Biden's and the rest of OUR Party's agenda.
jalan48
Oct 2021
#87
Who'd vote for corrupt, betraying Republicans if they knew who WE really are?
Hortensis
Oct 2021
#70
Like Manchin and Sinema? I've been saying for some time they are only pretending to be on our side
berni_mccoy
Oct 2021
#119
And the purity brigade goes to their default "victim" position right off the bat in the responses.
BannonsLiver
Oct 2021
#133
My point is all of the things people need are out of the bill in order TO PROTECT BILLIONAIRES.
onecaliberal
Oct 2021
#141
No, it's not a "simple post". It's quite elliptical. You've tried hard to be unclear.
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2021
#158
I have a type who I consider your framing apropos for: those who insisted that we HAD to pass
Celerity
Oct 2021
#169
Eureka, I think you've got it! The root of the word "progressive" is "progress".
George II
Oct 2021
#173
We have two outstanding examples, both of who we elected: Sinema and Manchin.
olegramps
Oct 2021
#204
What I have to say this morning is I am very aware of who is pretending to be on my side.
Autumn
Oct 2021
#208
Like Manchin and Sinema? If they would commit to voting for the Infrastructure
Roisin Ni Fiachra
Oct 2021
#214
It may be a shock, but every one of todays'politician has one major and sole objective: Reelection.
olegramps
Oct 2021
#216