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Jedi Guy

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43. I didn't say anything about being respectful.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:40 PM
Nov 2021

I said I was calm and did as I was asked/told, such as keeping my hands in plain sight and providing ID. If you're being detained or arrested, respect is optional. Cops can't make you respect them, but they absolutely can (and will) make you put your hands behind your back so they can cuff you.

Again, if you've seen what you believe to be excessive force or cops shooting people for no reason, all I can advise is that you report it. Doing otherwise accomplishes nothing, and since I wasn't there, I can't comment on what you believe happened regarding those events.

Police brutality is a real thing and only a fool would claim otherwise, but the statistics do not support the notion that it's rampant, or even a common occurrence. Again, less than 2% of 61.5 million interactions involve force of any kind.

I've seen enough instances of people lying about it not to take witness accounts at face value, so therein lies the value of investigations. If the investigation doesn't support the conclusion you've already reached, though, clearly that must mean the fix is in, right?

As I stated upthread, comparing European or Japanese cops to American cops won't wash. Apples to bowling balls, given how many people in America routinely walk around with guns on them. That said, I'll agree that cops generally aren't trained to deal with most mental health crises, and I can tell you that cops absolutely hate going to those calls. They'd be glad to be shed of that responsibility.

It's A wretched Business, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2021 #1
+1 ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #8
And in the moment of confrontation, how is the cop supposed to know whether the person is armed? Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #11
Sad The Magistrate Oct 2021 #17
Whatever. N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #18
Compare The Rates, Sweetheart The Magistrate Oct 2021 #19
Whatever, "sweetheart." I said no such thing. N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #20
You Just Can't Defend It Wheh Called On It The Magistrate Oct 2021 #21
Oh please. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #24
Flat Nonesense The Magistrate Nov 2021 #28
Thank you snowybirdie Oct 2021 #2
I was able to find some statistics from 2018 to help answer this question. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #13
If teachers used force 3% of the time they came in contact with school children dsc Oct 2021 #23
Yes, because that's absolutely a valid comparison... N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #25
why isn't it? dsc Oct 2021 #26
So you're honestly comparing kids breaking school rules to adults breaking laws? Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #27
Yeah but they've lost the benefit of the doubt on that "use of force" now and some are ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #31
I still give the benefit of the doubt until the investigation is done. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #36
Tell it to Tamir rice dsc Nov 2021 #32
Timothy Loehmann should never have been a cop to begin with. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #37
Lol. Most of this thread strikes me as appallingly dishonest Hortensis Nov 2021 #34
Yeah, the anti-cop extremism on DU is something else, especially for a "reality based community." Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #38
I take it you've never had a personally terrifying encounter with the police... hunter Nov 2021 #39
You are incorrect. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #40
I got away with a lot of shit when I was a wild young thing because I was white. hunter Nov 2021 #41
I didn't say anything about being respectful. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #43
What's the term for when people have no way to answer Hortensis Nov 2021 #44
Making apologies for all those "good apples" sweeps the horrors under the rug. hunter Nov 2021 #45
We already know many police officers are MAGAts... Blue Owl Oct 2021 #3
they are hunters, and we are their prey stillcool Oct 2021 #4
It's their training. Cops are taught everyone presents a threat and all encounters are potentially sop Oct 2021 #5
I personally know 3 people who have left their police jobs. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #6
People need to stand up and make police depts accountable tulipsandroses Oct 2021 #7
Too many cops are the aggressors. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #9
FTP. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #10
K&R multigraincracker Oct 2021 #12
Why? Because police have guns but most of them don't have the temperament or wisdom... hunter Oct 2021 #14
One has to ask, how many cops are doing drug and slave traffic? PurgedVoter Oct 2021 #15
Covid has shown that the "feared for their lives" claim is completely bogus. Crunchy Frog Oct 2021 #16
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 1 million recs of this !! uponit7771 Nov 2021 #30
I'm convinced that of many them enjoy imposing... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #22
K&R, "officer-created jeopardy" uponit7771 Nov 2021 #29
"contempt of cop"? More like weak-minded and insecure cops licking their wounds by killing those Solly Mack Nov 2021 #33
We all know police killings, including what amount to executions, Hortensis Nov 2021 #35
This is a must read Deminpenn Nov 2021 #42
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