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NurseJackie

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37. You see the pattern, too, eh?

Sat Nov 6, 2021, 09:12 AM

Nov 2021

Isn't it ridiculous? Smearing Democrats is just another form of voter suppression. The smears and attacks only serve to create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

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The Democrats Go to Bat for the Wealthy [View all] Celerity Nov 2021 OP

So.... Dorian Gray Nov 2021 #1

I'm NOT at all anti BBB, just the opposite. I am, however, anti- tax cuts that 96% go to the top 20% Celerity Nov 2021 #23

Have you forgotten the Democrats' "billionaire's tax" then, for just one, Hortensis Nov 2021 #56

This helps Democrats in places like New Jersey, New York, California and Connecticut...all blue Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #57

Exactly Danmel Nov 2021 #61

the level of the cap is simply too high, it is very regressive as 96% of the tax cuts go to the Celerity Nov 2021 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #82

I have already explained my stances. Celerity Nov 2021 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #84

My posts answering this are all over this thread. It is regressive as hell to advocate for a $324 Celerity Nov 2021 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #86

Exactly! beaglelover Nov 2021 #71

So sad to read this now. The infrastructure Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #2

Thank you. we can do it Nov 2021 #8

I love your name...yes we can do it! It lifts my spirit when I see your posts. I couldn't even Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #58

💙Thank you!💙 we can do it Nov 2021 #63

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Nov 2021 #3

Blah blah blah Democrats bad blah blah blah betsuni Nov 2021 #4

You see the pattern, too, eh? NurseJackie Nov 2021 #37

I wonder what's the point, who does this. This a forum for Democrats. betsuni Nov 2021 #38

I think some really believe they're what true Democrats are, Hortensis Nov 2021 #48

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #101

Yes. The Paucity of the DU Recs for threads like these is telling. MineralMan Nov 2021 #64

It never ends mcar Nov 2021 #47

SALT should probably be indexed to area costs-of-living Deminpenn Nov 2021 #5

The proposal from Bernie and Menendez had it phasing out at 400k AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #29

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #30

Yeah, that would be a great way to simplify the Tax Code dumbcat Nov 2021 #44

There's already plenty of if/then's in the tax code Deminpenn Nov 2021 #79

Enough is enough. Please stop! boston bean Nov 2021 #6

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #7

You're almost too nice saying please. we can do it Nov 2021 #9

No. I deal with actual real world fiscal impacts & resultant wealth redistributions of any proposed Celerity Nov 2021 #10

Yeah, me too. We pass something or nothing. And if nothing, be ineffectual with no boston bean Nov 2021 #13

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #14

we shall see if Manchin, Sinema, and the renegade 12 House centrists stick to their end of the Celerity Nov 2021 #18

Well, we you are going to have to wait and see. boston bean Nov 2021 #24

Biden was on board with the linking (Pelosi even moreso) most of the entire time. Also it was not Celerity Nov 2021 #28

They won't malaise Nov 2021 #41

I'm trying to remain optimistic. IF the BBB is indeed completely scuppered we are likely well fucked Celerity Nov 2021 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Nov 2021 #49

I'm watching Biden now malaise Nov 2021 #50

He needs to put the old bovver boots, as best he can, to the obstructionists Celerity Nov 2021 #54

Democrats went to bat for middle class homeowners in blue states. N/T lapucelle Nov 2021 #11

You gave a strange way of defining middle class, as 96% of all the tax breaks go to the top 20%, and Celerity Nov 2021 #12

How DARE the middle class get helped! AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #16

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #19

The large majority of the tax cuts go to people above the bulk of the middle class. Celerity Nov 2021 #20

That's not what Bernie said AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #21

I'm a middleclass homeowner in a blue state. The SALT cap hit people like me hard. lapucelle Nov 2021 #17

Exactly! NutmegYankee Nov 2021 #22

It was put in place to punish Democrats in blue states...glad it is gone. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #59

It was a middle class tax hike in my neighborhood. N/T lapucelle Nov 2021 #67

We looked into buying property in Buffalo when we had to leave Wisconsin...plant closing. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #73

In Jersey, you can have a 250,000 house and pay 20,000 in taxes. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #75

again, I have NO issue with raising the cap, just not to this high level that produces regressive Celerity Nov 2021 #76

$20,000 per year is only slightly less than my yearly income Withywindle Nov 2021 #103

The reduction of SALT write-off disproportionately hit MaryMagdaline Nov 2021 #15

I will be. Blue states should have a say. boston bean Nov 2021 #25

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #27

Local taxes are killing me here dsp3000 Nov 2021 #33

Yep. There was a reason Trump went after SALT MaryMagdaline Nov 2021 #72

cool story bruh stonecutter357 Nov 2021 #26

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #31

I must admit, I'm enjoying this thread very much. NurseJackie Nov 2021 #39

It's ridiculous. betsuni Nov 2021 #40

Me too Jackie ...this is all they got? On another thread someone was complaining that now Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #60

same for you (and I am NOT a bro) Celerity Nov 2021 #36

As a resident of Germany and taxed in the USA in Texas, SALT doesn't affect me DFW Nov 2021 #32

Yes, that's my understanding . .. Lovie777 Nov 2021 #35

I would have NO problem with a reasonable cap raise, but $80K is simply far too regressive Celerity Nov 2021 #42

Getting rid of the Blue State Penalty is a good thing. mn9driver Nov 2021 #34

I Disagree, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2021 #43

I have no problem raising the cap upward, just not to the too high level they are proposing Celerity Nov 2021 #104

Thanks for the factual contribution Doc Sportello Nov 2021 #46

yw, I try my level best Celerity Nov 2021 #51

We need people who will hold others accountable and praise when deserved Doc Sportello Nov 2021 #52

Is this helpful at this juncture? yardwork Nov 2021 #53

Being an informed person is always helpful. We are not ignorant Republicans Autumn Nov 2021 #55

Take the win when it comes, for God's sake! Generic Brad Nov 2021 #62

This has nothing to do with the BIF, it is about the as of yet unpassed BBB Act. Celerity Nov 2021 #69

Do You Ever Wonder Why Your Posts MineralMan Nov 2021 #65

I'm not here for recs. You may be, I am not. This isn't some high school popularity contest for me. Celerity Nov 2021 #68

lol Nixie Nov 2021 #74

Well, OK, then... MineralMan Nov 2021 #77

... betsuni Nov 2021 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #88

So? I was born in Los Angeles, and thus an American citizen, I have lived in the US multiple times, Celerity Nov 2021 #89

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This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #91

I stand by the posts I make on here, if not, why would I post them? You obviously do not Celerity Nov 2021 #92

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I'm sorry you feel that way. DiamondShark Nov 2021 #97

No I do not. Debate over policy's hardly an attack. I specifically laid out the issues I had as well Celerity Nov 2021 #98

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #99

DURec leftstreet Nov 2021 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #78

A few observations WarGamer Nov 2021 #81

What you said.. appalachiablue Nov 2021 #96

Thank you! Withywindle Nov 2021 #100

We allowed it, encouraged it, even. Orsino Nov 2021 #87

Congress is owned -- what do you expect? nt RFCalifornia Nov 2021 #95

Thanks for this, I recced it Withywindle Nov 2021 #102

Thank you for the reply and see my multiple replies for a further fleshing out of where Celerity Nov 2021 #105

"Biden promised" betsuni Nov 2021 #106

"I will raise taxes for anybody making over $400,000. ... No new taxes [for people making less than Celerity Nov 2021 #107

Right? Not raising taxes on anyone making below 400k is totally reasonable! Withywindle Nov 2021 #108