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In reply to the discussion: This may upset some DUers but after Iraq it's hard to watch the same hacks talking [View all]electric_blue68
(14,888 posts)I haven't really heard the "rah-rah", but I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I listen to the Local morning political/news program on WNYC, and NPR news (even if some say it's gone relatively rightward). The local program isn't rightward for sure, it's liberal.
I matched against the Vietnam War as a mid teen in NYC (my parents wouldn't let me go to DC for one of the biggest matches. My HS's lit & art magazine had a photo published from that march! ). I matched against The Gulf War - I went to DC for that (it was so great to see so many people marching). Marched against the Iraq War here in NYC (cops on horses - scary!).
Allende's assassination disturbed me. Iran in '53 I was a baby.
The USA , unfortunately, is not always the moral force it always claims to be. I know enough history.
I wouldn't want US troops on the ground in Ukraine, but I'm glad the US, and others are supplying other aid to Ukraine bc I'm half 2nd gen Ukrainian American.
I probably have unknown cousins over there. My dad told me his dad was a "peasant" near Kyiv who immigrated here, and stayed in NYC where a fairly sizeable group of Ukrainian Americans then lived. A bunch still do. The big boisterous side of my family is 1st, 2nd (and onward) gen Greek American. I have gotten some Ukrainian traditions from my dad.
The professor/historian Timothy D Snyder who specializes in Central, Eastern European from (I think) Lenin to Stalin and Holocaust histories - said Ukraine was always considered it's own self even by Lenin & Stalin.
I sure hope Putin doesn't invade further. He has no right to have incurred into Crimea, or the Dombas regions either.
Every country has it's good, so-so, and bad.
Even if I didn't have a good friend of Jamaica heritage (come to think of it - she's my 2nd Jamaica American friend - I haven't been in touch w my first one in around 50 yrs so. We were good friends from mid grade school through HS) I certainly wouldn't disparage your country.
Stay healthy down there!