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Crunchy Frog

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36. Some types of fentanyl can be used that way.

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:34 PM

Apr 2022

I believe Russia used it in the theater hostage incident. Of course it killed lots of people, so I'm sure it would have to be carefully calibrated.

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Report of poisonous substance dropped on Mariupol [View all] Wicked Blue Apr 2022 OP

I would not be surprised if Putin goes to tactical doc03 Apr 2022 #1

know what? bluestarone Apr 2022 #3

I agree with your concern Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #5

Sensationalism! ruet Apr 2022 #8

We know what Russia's goal is because they've stated it. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #34

+1 2naSalit Apr 2022 #43

I disagree. James48 Apr 2022 #44

1. Not May Day, Victory Day May 9; 2. A few tactical nukes won't Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #15

I honestly think it's only a matter of time. gldstwmn Apr 2022 #48

If this is true is changes everything ripcord Apr 2022 #2

The rape of toddlers didn't change anything, so use of poison probably won't either. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #4

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Apr 2022 #38

The rape of toddlers, the bombing of maternity hospitals, mass kidnapping .... TomSlick Apr 2022 #64

Yep. Threaten nukes, and you can do whatever you want, no matter how horrific. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #67

NATO's indifference is mostly a result of dependence on Russian oil and gas. TomSlick Apr 2022 #68

Russia and China both assume the West is too dependent upon Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #77

But the use of Chemical Weapons in war has its own Convention and rules. James48 Apr 2022 #45

To me, this is way over the red line. This is chemical warfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At minimal, give RKP5637 Apr 2022 #6

We Let Syria Cross That, Clearly Delineated, Line. ruet Apr 2022 #9

Different people/players. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2022 #13

Nothing Will Come of It. -NT- ruet Apr 2022 #14

I think you may be right! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2022 #18

As I recall Mad_Machine76 Apr 2022 #23

YES! Rebl2 Apr 2022 #25

Just as our intelligence predicted. GoCubsGo Apr 2022 #7

Exactly. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #28

Shit! Bayard Apr 2022 #10

Good info! Any idea what substances could cause these symptoms? nt Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #11

Any of a number of nerve agents. James48 Apr 2022 #47

Nope. James48 Apr 2022 #46

Indeed Bayard Apr 2022 #58

If true there is nothing that can be done. 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #12

Putin will never do the right thing IMHO Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #16

I don't think he gives a damn about the sanctions. He's a KGB sociopath on the warpath on a RKP5637 Apr 2022 #17

The sanctions haven't touched Putrid. onecaliberal Apr 2022 #40

unconfirmed report that it is sarin or novichok steve2470 Apr 2022 #19

I've seen speculation that it's Sarin nt Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #20

This has always been my line in the sand for our military involvement. Akoto Apr 2022 #21

If Putler has used sarin or novichok, then we should supply Ukraine with VX nerve gas. roamer65 Apr 2022 #31

STOP STOP STOP James48 Apr 2022 #49

We have a moral obligation. We turned a blind eye for too long once to a different genocide. Akoto Apr 2022 #50

wrong. James48 Apr 2022 #52

Then here is my suggestion: make it a defensive situation. Akoto Apr 2022 #54

Under what authority would you send American troops James48 Apr 2022 #56

I think we have to agree to disagree about whether we should intercede now. nt Akoto Apr 2022 #57

Except for one small detail. James48 Apr 2022 #60

Unfortunately, my FL congressman is Brian Mast. Good luck with that one. :) Akoto Apr 2022 #62

I wish we had a weapon Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #22

Good idea! Katcat Apr 2022 #33

Some types of fentanyl can be used that way. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #36

After all the moronitude at Chernobyl, Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #59

I was talking about the Ukrainian side. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #63

Knowing them, Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #66

Quite possibly. Putin was apparently behind the apartment bombings, Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #70

If you have the agent... jmowreader Apr 2022 #39

Russia has this AND used it in 2002. James48 Apr 2022 #51

Damn. I didn't know that. Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #65

Killing over a hundred hostages in the process, and fifty terrorists. eppur_se_muova Apr 2022 #71

This claim needs to be verified by our intelligence community. Yorkie Mom Apr 2022 #24

Stop Putin. Nululu Apr 2022 #26

Well Putin is already nominated for war crimes andym Apr 2022 #27

It's Putin warring. Should be expected. NT SmallFry Apr 2022 #29

Bad, bad news if true. roamer65 Apr 2022 #30

Lot of uncertainty around these reports. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #32

Not at all surprised. honest.abe Apr 2022 #35

Need more info scipan Apr 2022 #37

Earlier today: scipan Apr 2022 #41

More info on why chemical weapons might have been used: scipan Apr 2022 #55

Update: scipan Apr 2022 #42

So this claim is from a white nationalist (Biletsky). David__77 Apr 2022 #72

Yes. A reason to put less weight on what they say. scipan Apr 2022 #80

Putin needs to end. gldstwmn Apr 2022 #53

If true, NATO needs to send troops to Ukraine but not cross into Russia. marie999 Apr 2022 #61

Nope. Biden will stand strong. David__77 Apr 2022 #73

Meanwhile Russians are torturing and raping women and children. Sending women and children to camps marie999 Apr 2022 #76

Someone had posted EndlessWire Apr 2022 #69

Biden said the US wasn't engaging directly. David__77 Apr 2022 #75

I'm pretty sure he said NATO would respond. EndlessWire Apr 2022 #78

Maybe a war caucus can form in congress to advocate for US direct engagement. David__77 Apr 2022 #74

You see EndlessWire Apr 2022 #79