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xocetaceans

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20. One should keep in mind Bush v. Gore and not praise Cheney too hastily...
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:33 AM
Aug 2022

The GOP has been fine with subverting democracy in the past. That they (largely en masse) are currently fine with a different variety of an anti-democratic practice or behavior is not really all that surprising.

Halting the counting of votes is an anti-democratic practice - even if the Supreme Court is ordering it. Creating butterfly ballots and a system that generates "hanging chads" is also gaming the system in an anti-democratic manner.

One should recall what the Supreme Court did by halting the recount in Florida. Only later would the recounts show that Gore would have won Florida. So, the Supreme Court chose to create the Bush/Cheney administration and all that followed from it.

Was Liz Cheney against such anti-democratic practices back then when they had influence over her father's fortunes? Did she speak up and demand that the vote in Florida be allowed to be recounted completely? I don't recall her or any of the GOP of that time standing up and saying that the full vote in Florida should be recounted completely.

She is a day late and a dollar short as far as I am concerned. So, while it is good that she is saying what she is saying now, she deserves no praise for the doing of what she always should have done and still should do as a citizen of the USA.




Florida 'recounts' make Gore winner

Special report: the US elections

Martin Kettle in Washington
@martinkettle
Sun 28 Jan 2001 20.18 EST


Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.

The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000 Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa
The old "country club" East Coast Republicans, from the 40s and the 50s question everything Aug 2022 #1
They gone. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #4
As a resident of one of those flyover states, FoxNewsSucks Aug 2022 #6
In other words, the same people current conservative Republicans drove to political extinction... JHB Aug 2022 #25
Proud to have been Rec 5 Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 #2
She had me when she told Jim Jordon to f-off he created Jan 6. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #3
A true profile in courage. bottomofthehill Aug 2022 #5
+ 1 nt pazzyanne Aug 2022 #16
she should have (sarcasticly) claimed stolen election, since the winner has no problem wiggs Aug 2022 #7
That would have been GREAT Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #13
Don't fall too hard for her. Buyer beware. Or more accurately Be AFRAID. calimary Aug 2022 #8
I think everyone praising her here has their eyes wide open. BlueCheeseAgain Aug 2022 #10
Amen!!! Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #14
This! AKwannabe Aug 2022 #18
Thanks for the important details. elleng Aug 2022 #21
She is now entirely free for the next four months to do as her conscience dictates. n/t TygrBright Aug 2022 #9
Not in the last 50 years anyway. Many thanks, Liz Cheney Hekate Aug 2022 #11
What was the final count? Hugin Aug 2022 #12
Opponent got 63% of vote Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #15
I was hoping... Hugin Aug 2022 #22
I don't remember the exact numbers, but if I recall correctly, she got about 1/3 of the vote. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #19
Thanks, ShazzieB. n/t Hugin Aug 2022 #23
Drinking to that AKwannabe Aug 2022 #17
One should keep in mind Bush v. Gore and not praise Cheney too hastily... xocetaceans Aug 2022 #20
Let's not romanticize Liz Cheney AntivaxHunters Aug 2022 #24
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