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LetMyPeopleVote

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12. The opinion by this three-judge panel was fun to read
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:31 PM
Sep 2022

I love good legal draftmanship and this opinion is well done. The opinion in effect rebukes Judge Loose Cannon and shows that she does not understand the law.

Here is a link to the opinion. https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000

The three-judge panel destroys some Judge Loose Cannon's claims. For example, the court held that TFG has no right to the 100 secret classified document. These documents are owned by the Federal government and not TFG

. They are “owned by, produced by
or for, or . . . under the control of the United States Government.”
Id. § 1.1. And they include information the “unauthorized disclosure [of which] could reasonably be expected to cause identifiable
or describable damage to the national security.” Id. § 1.4. For this
reason, a person may have access to classified information only if,
among other requirements, he “has a need-to-know the information.” Id. § 4.1(a)(3). This requirement pertains equally to former Presidents, unless the current administration, in its discretion,
chooses to waive that requirement. Id. § 4.4(3).

The declassification argument is a red herring in that declassification has no effect on who owns these documents

Plaintiff suggests that he may have declassified these documents when he was President. But the record contains no evidence
that any of these records were declassified. And before the special
master, Plaintiff resisted providing any evidence that he had declassified any of these documents. See Doc. No. 97 at 2–3., Sept. 19,
2022, letter from James M. Trusty, et al., to Special Master Raymond J. Dearie, at 2–3. In any event, at least for these purposes,
the declassification argument is a red herring because declassifying
an official document would not change its content or render it personal. So even if we assumed that Plaintiff did declassify some or
all of the documents, that would not explain why he has a personal
interest in them.
This factor—the Plaintiff’s personal interest (or lack thereof)
in the documents—also weighs against exercising jurisdiction.

The panel rejects Loose Cannon's claim that TFG is special and this opinion treats TFG the same as ordinary citizen.

The remaining potential injury identified by the district
court is “the threat of future prosecution and the serious, often indelible stigma associated therewith.” Doc. No. 64 at 10. No doubt
the threat of prosecution can weigh heavily on the mind of someone under investigation. But without diminishing the seriousness
of that burden, “if the mere threat of prosecution were allowed to
constitute irreparable harm . . . every potential defendant could
point to the same harm and invoke the equitable powers of the district court.” United States v. Search of Law Office, Residence, and
Storage Unit Alan Brown, 341 F.3d 404, 415 (5th Cir. 2003) (quotation omitted). If this concern were sufficient to constitute irreparable harm, courts’ “exercise of [their] equitable jurisdiction would
not be extraordinary, but instead quite ordinary.” Id........

Second, we find unpersuasive Plaintiff’s insistence that he
would be harmed by a criminal investigation. “Bearing the discomfiture and cost of a prosecution for crime even by an innocent person is one of the painful obligations of citizenship.” Cobbledick v.
United States, 309 U.S. 323, 325 (1940)


I had fun geeking out are reading this opinion.

TFG is having a very bad day. Botany Sep 2022 #1
Very bad Rebl2 Sep 2022 #23
And for Aileen peppertree Sep 2022 #31
Yep, her too Rebl2 Sep 2022 #32
The very personification of the kind of 3rd world-style judiciary Repugs are trying to import peppertree Sep 2022 #33
Absolutely great news! Jim__ Sep 2022 #2
Whew! This is truly great. It actually gives me hope. Pathwalker Sep 2022 #3
K&R for, woo HOO!!!!! UTUSN Sep 2022 #4
Ha ha ha judge woman appointed by Donald Rump !!! You Stupid !!!!! Trueblue1968 Sep 2022 #5
Plus the MAGA-Lardo's kitchen was completely out of ketchup. sprinkleeninow Sep 2022 #6
Ah....Judge Cannon will have the sads.... LeftInTX Sep 2022 #7
Uh oh--Trump supporters goin' nuts. Kingofalldems Sep 2022 #8
And to THEM I say....... MyOwnPeace Sep 2022 #10
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Sep 2022 #15
F. Y. F. Hey, a new monogram! calimary Sep 2022 #41
I am VERY comfortable with that one!!!!! MyOwnPeace Sep 2022 #42
Their decision is damning Johnny2X2X Sep 2022 #9
"Trump is getting indicted." Botany Sep 2022 #11
The opinion by this three-judge panel was fun to read LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #12
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh glad they nailed this one part! Takket Sep 2022 #30
When even the 11th circuit is willing to call u a criminal, Volaris Sep 2022 #37
Was the ruling 3-0 against Trump? Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #13
Yes LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #19
Ooopsie. Tommymac Sep 2022 #14
Donnie 2-Scoops is still looking for the Cake the judge mentioned. n/t aggiesal Sep 2022 #16
Run Murphyb849 Sep 2022 #17
Has anyone check Truth Social for ketchup, yet? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #20
I also hope Cannon's actions Traildogbob Sep 2022 #18
seriously, yes LymphocyteLover Sep 2022 #28
The ruling is a very fun read. She was wrong on all counts! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #21
I was amused LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #25
After today I'll tell you what TFG is really going to need... Mr. Evil Sep 2022 #22
He will need at lot Traildogbob Sep 2022 #29
It's mostly in Louisiana. Mr. Evil Sep 2022 #36
In other words, "Trumpian Warship: Go Fuck Yourself." Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #24
LOL yes! LymphocyteLover Sep 2022 #27
this is pure gold! Wow! What a day. LymphocyteLover Sep 2022 #26
Cannon's an "Abuser".. a DT Cha Sep 2022 #34
Crash Cannon's career is over before it barely got started NBachers Sep 2022 #35
Unless a Trumpist is elected president and the GOP gets a majority in the Senate. Martin68 Sep 2022 #39
The system is working. Long live the system. Martin68 Sep 2022 #38
I suspect the real goal of the judge was to delay the investigation so as to aid her political party cstanleytech Sep 2022 #40
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