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In reply to the discussion: A solution to affordable housing... that Americans just don't seem to like. [View all]Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)62. France has housing like this outside of Paris...they have become ghettos. I am not in favor of this
because I do not believe it will be kept up by the powers that be and will become unliveable at some point. I give you as an example...Father Panik Villiage.
'Authorities decided that the project, once hailed as a prototype for the kind of safe, modern housing the government could provide for the poor, was so far gone that there was no other remedy.
Many longtime residents agree, but it saddens them.
It used to be beautiful here. You could go downtown and leave your house unlocked and you wouldnt have to worry about anything, said True Hamilton, 72, who has lived in the project for 15 years.
Now, were scared to even come out of the door at night. And when we hear gunshots, we hit the floor, she said.
Ive been here so long. I treat the people here like family and they treat me like family. I wont know how to live out there, said Kathleen Vila, who moved into the project with her family in 1943, when she was 9 months old.
When the project opened in 1941, it was a clean, modern complex touted as a solution to slum housing. Built to replace shanties for factory workers, it housed nearly 5,000 people in 46 three-story buildings spread over 40 acres.'
Many longtime residents agree, but it saddens them.
It used to be beautiful here. You could go downtown and leave your house unlocked and you wouldnt have to worry about anything, said True Hamilton, 72, who has lived in the project for 15 years.
Now, were scared to even come out of the door at night. And when we hear gunshots, we hit the floor, she said.
Ive been here so long. I treat the people here like family and they treat me like family. I wont know how to live out there, said Kathleen Vila, who moved into the project with her family in 1943, when she was 9 months old.
When the project opened in 1941, it was a clean, modern complex touted as a solution to slum housing. Built to replace shanties for factory workers, it housed nearly 5,000 people in 46 three-story buildings spread over 40 acres.'
I would rather see laws that force builders to build affordable housing within the community. Not giant apartments which will likely fall into ruin in a few years. Coops mixed into community housing might work as the prices do not go up. Thus it would remain affordable.
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A solution to affordable housing... that Americans just don't seem to like. [View all]
WarGamer
Sep 2022
OP
Don't forget land costs which can be high, but various building permit and other requirements
karynnj
Sep 2022
#64
Apartments are not necessarily "cramped, crowded spaces with no outdoor space."
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#25
I'm sorry but none of this is true. For 50 years, my building has had a board that is elected by the
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#84
Rinkeby, Tensta, Fittja, Hallunda, Norsborg, Husby, Alby, etc are all dodgy parts of the
Celerity
Sep 2022
#57
Oh, of course we have nothing like the worst parts of the US (I lived in LA whilst
Celerity
Sep 2022
#72
Personally, I would rather live out of a shopping cart than in a large condo.
Chainfire
Sep 2022
#24
I get what you are saying and I address it in a post I was typing while you were posting.
Chainfire
Sep 2022
#42
I made choices when I was young that allowed me to choose how I live out my final years.
Chainfire
Sep 2022
#41
:) Right, "utopia." Russia, China Nazi Germany, socialist and RW authoritarian
Hortensis
Sep 2022
#65
Lived in multi story buildings with patio/balconies..zero privacy..someone always looking down at yo
Demovictory9
Sep 2022
#95
As I have said frequently in this thread, I live in an apartment. It is one of 15
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#69
what are you talking about? what apartment ventilation systems "spread viruses like wildfire"?
maxsolomon
Sep 2022
#82
There are a lot of bat-shit crazy assertions about apartment living in this thread.
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#83
France has housing like this outside of Paris...they have become ghettos. I am not in favor of this
Demsrule86
Sep 2022
#62
Jared's tenants are not owners. Jared is the owner. The tenants are tenants. In contrast,
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#71
What you are describing is a coop and what about maintenance? Who will pay for it?
Demsrule86
Sep 2022
#77
You could never have huge places and make it work...but you could build co-ops
Demsrule86
Sep 2022
#78
LOL! You don't get it. There isn't a question about whether this "will work."
Scrivener7
Sep 2022
#81
Millions of people live like this worldwide... tens of millions, maybe 100's??
WarGamer
Sep 2022
#91