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Showing Original Post only (View all)Putin's Secret Attack Plan Would Be Ukrainian Nightmare [View all]
Lots of info here, mostly from Ukrainian Intel service... counters some of the "happy news" that's been filling the feeds lately.
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-secret-attack-plan-ukrainian-094858834.html
KYIVUkraine is braced for a major new offensive that could begin within weeks. One of President Zelenskys key insiders told The Daily Beast that they expect a looming Russian move to encircle the country with a simultaneous attack on three fronts.
They are coming from all directions, with three lines of fighting: criminals, private contractors, and regular forces. Their goals are to get rid of their criminals, to test and train their contractors, Umerov said.
"We are watching Russia build lots of forces in the Zaporizhzhia region. It looks like they are planning a pincer attack from Kharkiv [in the east] and Zaporizhzhia [in the south] directions, they will attempt to capture all of Ukraines major defense forces, Zhdanov told The Daily Beast. We are also watching Russian military constantly moving 10-12,000 men in Belarus [to the north]. They are also reinforcing in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions.
They are coming from all directions, with three lines of fighting: criminals, private contractors, and regular forces. Their goals are to get rid of their criminals, to test and train their contractors, Umerov said.
"We are watching Russia build lots of forces in the Zaporizhzhia region. It looks like they are planning a pincer attack from Kharkiv [in the east] and Zaporizhzhia [in the south] directions, they will attempt to capture all of Ukraines major defense forces, Zhdanov told The Daily Beast. We are also watching Russian military constantly moving 10-12,000 men in Belarus [to the north]. They are also reinforcing in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions.
Makes sense now... this is why Zelenskyy is so frantic right now trying to get heavy weapons... It looks like they're expecting Russia to attempt a coup de grâce to end the war.
This tactic goes back to WW2, surround the opposing force, cut them off, squeeze them geographically and "reduce" the contained force primarily with concentrated artillery and air attack. The Germans did it to the Russians and a couple years later the Russians did it to the Germans. THIS is how armies of a million soldiers+ were snuffed out.
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The experts I have been listening to seem to think Putin is just threatening nukes.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2023
#16
It's not about artillery. It is about whether or not NATO will support Ukraine.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2023
#34
If "preemptive strikes" were good enough for Israel in the 60s, they should be good for NATO now. nt
Samrob
Jan 2023
#7
They are over thinking. Target their nukes and have at it. Either that or democracy dies
Samrob
Jan 2023
#24
From the same group that planned the initial 3 Day invasion of Ukraine.
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#10
Stalin had the US supplying him weaponry and the Soviets were on home turf.
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#17
+1. Putin knows the West's love for Ukraine has a shelf life and is not unlimited
dalton99a
Jan 2023
#22
To the contrary, Russia has used up much of their conventional military capacity and they
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#26
Absolutely untrue. The US and our NATO allies have been and will continued give
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#39
The US and NATO have dragged their feet just giving Ukraine enough weapons to keep fighting.
Lonestarblue
Jan 2023
#18
Same. I'm skeptical that they have the personnel, arms or organization to do this
LymphocyteLover
Jan 2023
#25
In the end, realpolitik means any prospective Putin allies have to ask themselves
Emrys
Jan 2023
#50
If Putin wins the war in Ukraine, it is the final chapter in the Cold War. Putin wins.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2023
#37
Clearly, they do. All the countries of Europe understand the threat--and especially those that
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#56
Did Germany relent and give Zelensky the tanks overnight while I was sleeping?
Irish_Dem
Jan 2023
#53
OK, sidestep my other comments because they don't fit in with your gloomy world view.
Emrys
Jan 2023
#55
The US and NATO are giving and have been giving Ukraine what they need ahead of the moment
Just A Box Of Rain
Jan 2023
#57
Europe is going to be forced to decide if they will allow Russia to take one of their countries.
Renew Deal
Jan 2023
#44