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bvar22

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76. It won't matter then.

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:53 PM

Nov 2012

After the last remaining vestiges of The New Deal and The Great Society have been Privatized,
and the supra-Constitutional powers of the Unitary Executive have been reinforced and expanded,
it will be [font size=3]MISSION ACCOMPLISHED![/font]

Those leading the attack on these Successful Social Programs
could NOT Care Less whether the Democratic Party survives.

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If the Democratic Party allows Medicare or Social Security to be cut, [View all] Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 OP

Then a third party will show up more newfie11 Nov 2012 #1

The 3rd party just needs to call itself the Democrat Party (as opposed to Democratic Party). valerief Nov 2012 #27

If there is a Grand Bargain, both the Dems and GOP may go the way of the Whigs. leveymg Nov 2012 #32

+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #74

Well said! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #82

If I hear them called "Entitlements" Blue Gardener Nov 2012 #2

That's because they are. It's decades of conservative propaganda that has made the word... JHB Nov 2012 #3

You're entitled to collect what you've paid into. Doesn't matter that the repukes have sullied the SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #15

If you've been paying in for 39 years tularetom Nov 2012 #20

To me social security is an annuity not an entitlement and that is what we should call it. southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #33

And we STILL pay into Medicare when we are on it! CTyankee Nov 2012 #41

Enough with the if posts loyalkydem Nov 2012 #4

They won't care; they will just go back home and count their bribes. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #6

I don't believe a word I hear from any of them! Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #9

some big-name dems are talking cutting Medicare Enrique Nov 2012 #11

yes. as long as a D does it, it's the best thing since sliced bread by some. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #77

Unfortunately many Democrats, starting with our President, are OK with cuts... or are even MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #13

There are very few Blue Dogs left. A lot of them lost in 2010 sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35

Off the Table...... until the Marketing Department manufactures another fake "Hostage Crisis"... bvar22 Nov 2012 #64

"Stop whining because you didn't get your pony!" djean111 Nov 2012 #80

People laughed at Gore's "Lock-Box"..... WinkyDink Nov 2012 #5

I'm with you ReRe Nov 2012 #7

Medicare needs to be reformed around patient wellness banned from Kos Nov 2012 #8

That is reform that I can live with. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #10

There are many ways to cut Medicare costs and sustain the level of benefits. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #12

There may be. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #14

Which is why negotiating with them is an abandonment of the people Doctor_J Nov 2012 #19

Because "Bipartisanship, YAY!!!!" vi5 Nov 2012 #29

Social policy in its many manifestations is the linchpin of the democratic platform. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #16

We already have instability Doctor_J Nov 2012 #21

Yeah well, I guess it's a matter of degeree. Tremor or all engulfing chasm causing quake. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #52

It won't matter then. bvar22 Nov 2012 #76

I'm with you on that. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #17

My experience has been that Washington Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #18

We're going to have to give on something union_maid Nov 2012 #22

No! Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #26

Not really, they can't pass a single cut without us TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #28

no & No & NO - we've ALREADY "given" damn near everything bread_and_roses Nov 2012 #36

Hogwash. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #45

Removal of the Cap would be the best option. Allowing people to voluntarily give bluestate10 Nov 2012 #81

If the Democratic Party starts cooking kittens in the street... SidDithers Nov 2012 #23

That might finally do the trick. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #25

22%, right Manny?... SidDithers Nov 2012 #31

Was I wrong about something? Please provide my actual quote MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #34

You've been ringing the alarm bells about a 22% cut to SS for 2 years Manny... SidDithers Nov 2012 #42

And that bell is still out there. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #44

One quote. Let's see what you're disagreeing with here. nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #50

Here's you putting words into Obama's mouth, it's obviously what you believe he wants... SidDithers Nov 2012 #54

... SidDithers Nov 2012 #56

Is anything in the following part of that quote incorrect? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #58

Has SS been cut by 22%, Manny?...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #59

I see. You don't want to answer my simple question. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #69

I have no interest in a conversation with you, Manny... SidDithers Nov 2012 #71

So the President's commission did *not* vote to recommend a 22% cut MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #73

The commission did issue a final report that included a 22% recommendation?... SidDithers Nov 2012 #75

Yes. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #85

That was approved by 14 of the 18 members of the commission?... SidDithers Nov 2012 #86

Yes. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #89

Without 14 votes, it was just noise... SidDithers Nov 2012 #90

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... SidDithers Nov 2012 #62

My post perfectly predicted what Obama agreed to do just one month later MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #70

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lol! JoePhilly Nov 2012 #30

That would be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory CanonRay Nov 2012 #24

This is my line of thinking also, Cannon Ray. If they touch SS benefits, plethoro Nov 2012 #39

We are on the same page plethoro CanonRay Nov 2012 #72

They need to strengthen them not cut them SHRED Nov 2012 #37

Congress shall extend Medicare to all Americans. MrYikes Nov 2012 #38

My school used to teach anyone who depended on Social Security alone was a fool NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #40

Well, in the financial mishegas Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #43

That school wouldn't be Liberty University by any chance, would it? Zorra Nov 2012 #47

What "school" would that be? Who are "they"? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #48

Well, lets see. Who would be teaching at a school? NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #51

I learned that too, but clearly old school needs revising! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #83

They didn't. What they did was stop paying us enough to have a pension SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #87

The Dems are ineffective in messaging because they won't bonniebgood Nov 2012 #46

9/10/01. All records in the WTC. And yet some people still throw around the term "tin-foil". WinkyDink Nov 2012 #49

We need a Feet to fire Grover Norquist like pledge Generic Other Nov 2012 #53

"If the Democratic Party pushes for NAFTA (or in 2012 TPP!), they will reap the whirlwind..." Romulox Nov 2012 #55

Sadly, you're probably right Doctor_J Nov 2012 #68

K&R forestpath Nov 2012 #57

The People will react with a powerful anger as if their lives depend on it, which they do. RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #61

I'd like to think so but I don't believe it's true hughee99 Nov 2012 #65

Is that "if" or "when"? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #78

I hope it's an 'if', Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #84

I agree. We fought hard during the past election to get into this position. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #79

Why don`t they cut foreign aid some? Sadiedog Nov 2012 #88