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JohnSJ

(94,779 posts) Tue Aug 6, 2024, 10:14 AM Aug 6

The press in general is out there pushing that the Walz pick is a shift to the left. [View all]

It is such a disingenuous argument.

When did a woman's right to choose, education, healthcare, etc. become "leftwing"?

I believe Walz was picked to shore up the Democratic base because what will win this election will be turnout.

From my observation we are on the offensive, and instead of as in previous campaigns, letting our advisories "define" us, we are defining them.

As long as we stay on message, not get divided stay united, we should be able to do this.

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The press in general is out there pushing that the Walz pick is a shift to the left. [View all] JohnSJ Aug 6 OP

But we need more than the left sunnybrook Aug 6 #1

It gives the blunt truth oxygen and allows the VP candidate to use a bully pulpit of sorts. bucolic_frolic Aug 6 #7

Most of the Haley voters were never going to vote for Harris. TwilightZone Aug 6 #13

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 6 #28

Yup FHRRK Aug 6 #69

There are Haley voters organizing for Harris. Fla Dem Aug 6 #23

Try some reality Zoomie1986 Aug 6 #26

This is going to do a LOT to get younger voters to vote. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 6 #34

Prove it Gaytano70 Aug 6 #53

The votes we need aren't between the 40 yard lines. nt Gore1FL Aug 6 #58

Oh, horrors! Press is gonna get baked this fall too! bucolic_frolic Aug 6 #2

We already have the Haley voters. ananda Aug 6 #3

No, they really didn't. TwilightZone Aug 6 #15

And? So? Zoomie1986 Aug 6 #32

Feeding kids! RandySF Aug 6 #4

Is his middle name Marx or something? hibbing Aug 6 #88

I don't see much daylight between Walz and Biden. RandySF Aug 6 #92

What press is that? Kaleva Aug 6 #5

This is false Johnny2X2X Aug 6 #6

Walz is no moderate- except perhaps on guns, he's to the left of Harris Fiendish Thingy Aug 6 #37

He's gotten significant Republican support for half of that Johnny2X2X Aug 6 #42

Center geographically perhaps, but not ideologically Fiendish Thingy Aug 6 #52

You should make this its own OP geardaddy Aug 6 #91

He's a perfect progressive. His issues are to the left. And that's perfect! jimfields33 Aug 6 #61

A bit over the top dpibel Aug 6 #108

If anything, it signals the opposite Fiendish Thingy Aug 6 #8

Good grief. I hope she doesn't do that. She is a liberal candidate and must embrace it. jimfields33 Aug 6 #65

She's already moved right on immigration Fiendish Thingy Aug 6 #68

RIGHT!!! Too many allowed their Overton window to shift for ratings uponit7771 Aug 6 #9

Who cares? TwilightZone Aug 6 #10

Plus, there will be only one poll that matters in 2024 Wednesdays Aug 6 #82

I looked at a few dozen headlines. Didn't see any saying this was a shift to the left. Kaleva Aug 6 #11

On MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc. commentators are pushing that line, which is right out of the JohnSJ Aug 6 #20

That doesn't qualify as " the press in general" Kaleva Aug 6 #25

Really. Watch in the following days, not only on the various news outlets, but especially JohnSJ Aug 6 #38

How about providing links to example that'd back up your claim Kaleva Aug 6 #46

It is hystreical because Walz is a moderate obamanut2012 Aug 6 #12

I know. That is the frustration. They are effectively embedding republican commentary JohnSJ Aug 6 #41

Everything is relative, this is just a statement on how far right the corporate media is on the political spectrum Uncle Joe Aug 6 #78

The corporate media is SHIT. Period. Deek1935 Aug 6 #14

What corporate media, give an example. Just don't throw your opinion out there as fact. Fla Dem Aug 6 #19

Do you have the bandwidth for the hundreds of examples Zoomie1986 Aug 6 #35

What the heck! NYT Editorial from 9 years ago? Fla Dem Aug 6 #40

+1000 Celerity Aug 6 #76

What press? Major Newspapers? Major TV Channels other than FOX News? MSNBC, CNN? Fla Dem Aug 6 #16

It comes from the commentary within these news reports. That has been a large part of JohnSJ Aug 6 #24

Feeding children isn't leftwing, but being opposed to it is weird ck4829 Aug 6 #17

Shitheel Jake Tapper tried this line a few days ago Prairie Gates Aug 6 #18

Walz shores up the youth vote. He's a Progressive. MaryMagdaline Aug 6 #21

THIS. The party is finally waking up, yardwork Aug 6 #50

Yes. I believe Bernie voters should be happy. MaryMagdaline Aug 6 #62

Left is what the USA and Democracy need. Kid Berwyn Aug 6 #22

And??? edisdead Aug 6 #27

This country needs a shift to the left. yardwork Aug 6 #29

Doesn't matter, he's a communicator of a sort we maybe haven't had in the party JCMach1 Aug 6 #30

I have watched CNN for a total of maybe five minutes in the past year Eliot Rosewater Aug 6 #31

He is a shift to the left - which shores up the base. Safe pick, and a good one. nt TBF Aug 6 #33

Thing is, Walz looks like most of the white wingers I've known in my life. Might be hard to tag him with "leftist." Silent Type Aug 6 #36

The vp generally doesn't have much of a say in policy unblock Aug 6 #39

Bernie and the progressive caucus support him. Emile Aug 6 #43

You need every vote you can get, especially with the electoral college JohnSJ Aug 6 #44

After moderates killed the public option for Emile Aug 6 #45

Not if you want to win the general election. You realize this will probably be a very close JohnSJ Aug 6 #47

Yea, they said Joe Biden was a moderate too. Thats Emile Aug 6 #48

2020 was a very close election if you look at the numbers in those critical swing states. JohnSJ Aug 6 #49

TFG runs hard extreme 100% of the time, I don't see this lore being applicable any longer uponit7771 Aug 6 #57

I know. I just think we need every vote we can get because of the way the electoral college JohnSJ Aug 6 #64

If you want more votes you run as a progressive. Emile Aug 6 #73

The country is mostly center left, center right. It depends what you mean by progressive. JohnSJ Aug 6 #80

This party is not conservative, we're progressives who would have liked a public option when Emile Aug 6 #81

No it isn't, but it isn't left either. It is more left center, and so is the country. JohnSJ Aug 6 #83

RIGHT !!! Trumps not running as a moderate of anything uponit7771 Aug 6 #55

Bernie and the progressive caucus were going to support the nominee, regardless. TwilightZone Aug 6 #74

Uh huh. . . Emile Aug 6 #75

You really think they would not have supported any VP candidate on the Harris ticket? JohnSJ Aug 6 #84

To the Press: Gaytano70 Aug 6 #51

Finally some GOOD news from the for-profit media! Think. Again. Aug 6 #54

How 20th century of them. yellowcanine Aug 6 #56

Oh no! How horrible! Mysterian Aug 6 #59

When the whole GOP is now an authoritarian cult, any Democrat looks like a shift to the left. Doodley Aug 6 #60

Left of Trump and Vance Freethinker65 Aug 6 #63

Morning Joe was back on his Republican ways this morning, and Kornacki was a wet towel too. dem4decades Aug 6 #66

Our corrupt media needs to keep the race close for their own profit -misanthroptimist Aug 6 #67

Not what I'm seeing on CNN. They seem to be pretty happy about him being basically center Dem. mucholderthandirt Aug 6 #70

Good. You are probably hearing it right. JohnSJ Aug 6 #71

That would be the thrust no matter who was picked. The difference is Nanjeanne Aug 6 #72

Fuck 'em -- Diarrhea Donny's was a pick to the right Blue Owl Aug 6 #77

Good of them to notice FullySupportDems Aug 6 #79

Well said & amen! Corporate media hype push "to the left" while coalition ignores it. It's what they do. Then we win. ancianita Aug 6 #85

And if it had been Shapiro, they would be saying "this is a controversial pick that divides Democrats." Sky Jewels Aug 6 #86

Both protected ACA when in House & Senate bmichaelh Aug 6 #87

The fascist press can fuck off. onecaliberal Aug 6 #89

Where were they in calling Vance a shift to full-blown fascism? JCMach1 Aug 6 #90

All Harris/Walz have to say is We give 4th graders free lunch -- They force 4th graders to give birth. Nanjeanne Aug 6 #93

Typical pro repug media! GoreWon2000 Aug 6 #94

Post removed Post removed Aug 6 #95

Hi. Plan on staying long? I wouldn't. GP6971 Aug 6 #96

lol. ismnotwasm Aug 6 #97

Pete Multon, what kinda pizza you like? irisblue Aug 6 #98

Sounds serious. Empty assertions require citation. Torchlight Aug 6 #99

from under a bridge? irisblue Aug 6 #100

The amount of things I don't realize until after the fact is absurdly high Torchlight Aug 6 #107

Well, as long as WE are in the headlines, and not some piece of trash, we are winning....... getagrip_already Aug 6 #101

Oh heck, they were going to say that about whoever was selected Raven123 Aug 6 #102

They don't know what to do. Klarkashton Aug 6 #103

If you've ever heard Warren Buffett speak, he and Tim Walz have spooky3 Aug 6 #104

"When did. . . pat_k Aug 6 #105

I think he's going to blow that out of the water once he's asked. ms liberty Aug 6 #106

Basic physics. Eventually a pendulam has to swing the other way Attilatheblond Aug 6 #109